Interesting similarities

[SA Friday]

So how is that different from the original article?

Based on the two links in the OP, there are some similarities and some differences. The similarities Sharpie is inferring is the governments of North Korea and Egypt have wide spread fear of their own people. It appears so does the current executive branch of our government. The difference is how those fears are manifesting in policy and in the population. I don't necessarily agree that the correlation is there, but I do see his point. For the executive branch to release a memo relaying serious concern about insider threat is a clear indication there are serious disagreements within the branch. Having worked under the Clinton administration while in the Military, I can tell you there was never this level of concern within the executive branch where an utter disconnect between the elected officials were concerned of agencies under is branch were going to intentionally release info. We always have one or two per administration commit espionage in this country. Believe me, it's way more prevalent in other countries. But, we rarely have systemic concern. For the most part, the US citizens identify themselves internationally through their governmental identity. If you ask the question, "What does the USA mean to the world," you get a considerably higher amount of governmental theology than any other country. This relates to a much higher standard of loyalty to the country regardless of the administration. For this executive memo to be released shows a systemic lack of confidence in proportions not seen in this country since the election of 1860 and we all know how that turned out.

[SA Friday]

I ask that again because its a grey zone. One mans freedom fighter is another mans terrorist.

I can see how this would be confusing for you. Pick a side....

[nynco]

Well SA I personally think it is bad too.

[Sharpienads]

My OP was mostly in jest. I understand they're different, but i just thought it was kinda funny that Obama and Kim Jong-un would release somewhat similar statements around the same time frame. But I'm glad it has spurred conversation.

[Bailey Guns]

I ask that again because its a grey zone. One mans freedom fighter is another mans terrorist.

You are so full of shit.

[nynco]

I guess you have never heard or had the ability to understand that saying - which is it?

Because the British crown called the US patriots terrorists. Esp the sharp shooters taking out officers.

[Bailey Guns]

No, nynco...as usual, you don't have a fucking clue nor are you as smart or enlightened as you seem to think.

The difference between you and me is that I think in the context of a citizen patriot, loyal to the United States. You apparently, are a little more multi-culturally or diversity oriented than I. And I see that as a problem. As I've said before, I see people with your mindset as the enemy, regardless of your protestations to the contrary that you're not a liberal, or progressive or whatever.

As a patriot citizen of the United States I look upon someone like Bradley Manning as the enemy as well. SAFriday is right...he deserves nothing more than a bullet in the back of his head. Yes, I'd be more than happy to supply the bullet and pull the trigger. I'm sure you think that's just terribly brutal. Your nonsense about "one man's freedom fighter" is just horseshit. But I'm not surprised...it's what you do best.

[nynco]

There was no US when we were fighting the crown. Had we lost all the found fathers would have been hung as traitors and their forces labeled as terrorists to the loyalists.

Manning thought he was exposing a gov that had gone out of control. Which some of the stuff he released showed just that.

[Bailey Guns]

So we all get to just pick and choose when it's OK to violate the law and the oath we took. Got it.

Bradley Manning was probably responsible for lost lives in Iraq and Afghanistan and perhaps elsewhere. He's no "freedom fighter" by any stretch of the imagination...even using your twisted logic.

[PSS]

I ask that again because its a grey zone. One mans freedom fighter is another mans terrorist.

That's true from a third party sense. I guess it's up to you to decide who you want to side with. Whether or not it's the right side will be determined by the winners. If it's a grey area to you then you are a dangerous person and one to be avoided. Something people continue to try to tell you and you seem to miss the point. I don't want someone by my side that is indecisive and without convictions.

For example it doesn't matter what Manning thinks. He picked an adversary against whom he has no hope of winning a war against. Especially with the people he seems to be allied with.