New Gun Control for CO?

[sniper7]

Here is how I would handle this.

Dear Governor:

I voted for you. But I don't agree with your stance of trying to limit my constitutional right to bear arms. There are many more people who voted for you that think the same. Not all of your constituency thinks that limiting a persons constitutional right to bear arms is a good move on your part. You may think that those people will knee jerk vote for you because they did before. But you might anger them enough to not support you again. That does not mean they will vote for the other guy. But by making me or many others angry, we may not vote for you at all. Which is just as bad for your job in the long run. Not all liberals or Democrats are anti gun and don't assume that we will knee jerk vote for you if you decide to limit our rights rather than defend them.

Have a nice day

Now do you guys see why having liberal gun owners is a good thing? Who do you think he is going to listen to. Someone who would never vote for him or someone that would and did. Remember gun rights is bigger than your disdain for one side. Don't hate those who stand with you on some subjects because they don't see eye to eye on all of them.

Is this what you "would" do or are going to do. Big difference between talking about it and doing it.

Id much rather have a pro gun majority in every branch all yelling the anti-gun people to fuck themselves then a democrat worrying about his job over stripping my constitutional rights for some over reaching cock suckers.....but that's just me.

[The Rat]

Good write Rat.
Or is that a writ from a Rat?
Mind if I copy and cut & paste?

Go ahead man.

[DavieD55]

That's what you get for voting for a democrat in the first place. Now that you've voted for him you have to plead with him and the other democrats in the legislature not to restrict your liberties. If you vote democrat, you're not a friend to gun owners. Regardless of how many guns you own.

Exactly.

[nynco]

Rat great reply and I think that the more we do what you are talking about, the better it will be for all of us. As to never voting for Dems, well that makes gun ownership a partisan issue. However if it becomes a non partisan issue then one party will have no interest in pandering to their partisan base. Gun ownership is bigger than just one party. Sooner people figure that out and try to get everyone to be OK with gun ownership like how Rat layed out, the better off we all will be.

Sniper, I will rewrite that and send it off. I just want to word it better. As I said before -Feel free to add suggestions or critique it. The more that politicians see that people who would actually vote for them complaining the better. If a person takes the stance that they will NEVER voter for a Dem or a Liberal even if hell freezes over means that politician has not reason to care about your complaint. He has nothing to lose anyways.

Remember the more people that stop seeing the AR15 as an evil black instrument of death, the better off we all will be.

Amendment 64 just passed, what do you think that will mean?

[Aloha_Shooter]

For what it's worth, the NRA supports some Democrats because they want to show they really are a single-issue organization rather than a partisan one. I'm happy to introduce liberals to shooting and get them to understand it's not voodoo. The more Real Knowledge we can get in the Know-Nothing party, the better. We need people inside that party to argue with Feinstein's and Schumer's crap from within. If we can keep the debate and fight inside their party then the rest of us can fight the other parts of the idiotic liberal agenda outside.

I have very little hope of reason returning to the Democrat Party any time soon -- what's left there now would throw out Harry Truman and JFK as being too conservative -- but I'd rather fight with them on the fiscal issues and let them fight internally on social stuff like gun rights and the freedom of association/to practice religion than have to fight a five front war (and that's what we've got now: spending fight, taxing fight, free speech fight, homosexual marriage fight, gun rights fight).

[Bailey Guns]

I would rather see one liberal become a conservative than see 100 liberals become gun owners.

[10mm-man]

I would rather see one liberal become a conservative than see 100 liberals become gun owners.

^^^^ I have to agree!

[Ronin13]

I'll just say this- in the recent bout, nynco VS. Carl (Aka Bailey Guns), the judges have ruled it a win by knockout for Bailey! Pretty much any liberal that is Pro-2A is a socially and perhaps economically liberal person, but in terms of constitutionally, we have to see how they address a similar topic of debate: infringement of the 1st Amendment. I seriously have to ask nynco: do you believe that the 1st is pretty much as is, no changes or "reasonable limitations" needed on it? Kind of how, I hope, you see the 2nd? Which begs me to ask, do you believe any "reasonable legislation" should be allowed with 1A? Or do you think that we can go ahead and limit free speech to "non-offensive" speech? Furthermore, do you think that, outside of what we all see as good- like violent felons being restricted from gun ownership, age limits, and some form of background check- the 2nd should never be messed with? I'm just curious as to your stance so I can better define to what degree of liberal you are. In my experience, any pro-2A liberal is kind of an oxymoron, considering it's pretty much clearly defined that the left opposes guns, and the right supports the right to keep and bear arms.

[iquack08]

My 2c. If high-capacity magazines are banned, such a law would be unenforceable. The govt. can't just take private property w/o compensation, and in this case, it's unlikely the govt. would want to pay for them. So that restriction would most likely be grandfathered in.

Then, how would the govt. prove in a court of law that the magazine is not a pre-ban one. No idea. It's unenforceable, but it would still be a hassle for gunowners to deal with it.

Couldn't CO just require magazine manufacturers to stamp a date on it? That would most likely violate the dormant commerce clause. The federal govt. can require it though.

[iquack08]

As somebody who has worked in the CO legislature, it's my opinion that some gun control measures will pass this session...

Also, I hate arguing politics online, but I would like to mention that some gun-friendly Democrats play an important role in preventing onerous gun legislation from being passed. e.g. Harry Reid.