Quote Originally Posted by cstone View Post
Government programs are like the camel's nose. They are proposed and passed as supplements to assist the needy. Social Security was started to supplement worker's retirement savings. Now it is seen as sacrosanct and an absolute must for all who the GOV approves to receive.

There will always be those who have more and those who have less. IMO, life is not fair and it is not about providing an equal right to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness for every citizen. In fact that phrase is in the Declaration of Independence, which of course was written as a statement dissolving the ties between citizens and their former government. IMO life is about opportunities, and freedom to choose. I am free to believe what I do and you are free to believe what you want. I am free to disagree with you, as you are free to disagree with me. I choose to have less government involvement in my choices and I choose to not have my healthcare provided through government mandates. I feel that the current system is an infringement upon my rights and I will work against that infringement upon my rights.

I do not want to live in a socialized state like those found in Scandanavia or the rest of western Europe. I believe the path chosen by those countries is fundamentally wrong based on my understanding of the Constitution. I could list many other problems I have with current government programs and policies, however, I find the entire discussion to be continued mental masturbation.

Enjoy yourself and the future you are choosing. I'm taking my balls and going home.
What do you think Soc Sec does now. I sure as hell is not the end all be all for retirement. It is exactly what you said a supplement. Because it really does not pay very much like you all think.

I don't want life to be fair and equal. But I want there to be a system where people can live with dignity while working an honest job. You want more than that, work harder. Right now there are tons of hard working Americans who can not make ends meet because our system is so broken that tons of people can not survive on that. The pay offerings of companies like Walmart (who made billions in profit) many who work at those low wage jobs qualify for public assistance. even though they work full time. So Yeah I have a problem with a system where companies can make the taxpayers subsidize their slave labor.