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    Quote Originally Posted by OneGuy67 View Post
    Actually, you can do roadside maneuvers for MJ intoxication and there are indicators for it. However, it does require an arrest and consent to a blood test in the minimum, and a DRE (Drug Recogntion Expert) evaluation and blood test at the maximum. Given there are so few DRE certified officers in Colorado, the easiest way would be to train officers to look for the indicia and upon a probable cause arrest, request a blood test.
    So there is a way to prove someone is driving under the influence and follow up with charges? But isn't it pretty tough to prove?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin13 View Post
    So there is a way to prove someone is driving under the influence and follow up with charges? But isn't it pretty tough to prove?
    Yes. The legislative argument is what is going to be the defined limits of intoxication. You can drive with alcohol in your system and be under the legal defined limit. Right now, there is no legal defined limit for THC, so the prosecution hinges on officer observations and the proof, if you will, comes from the blood results. Failure to comply with the expressed consent law causes an administrative penalty of losing your license to drive for one year as well as the criminal prosecution in court. No test doesn't mean no prosecution; just a harder time in the prosecution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OneGuy67 View Post
    Yes. The legislative argument is what is going to be the defined limits of intoxication. You can drive with alcohol in your system and be under the legal defined limit. Right now, there is no legal defined limit for THC, so the prosecution hinges on officer observations and the proof, if you will, comes from the blood results. Failure to comply with the expressed consent law causes an administrative penalty of losing your license to drive for one year as well as the criminal prosecution in court. No test doesn't mean no prosecution; just a harder time in the prosecution.

    Not Correct ???

    I thought ?

    What is this I hear about 5 micrograms ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin13 View Post
    So there is a way to prove someone is driving under the influence and follow up with charges? But isn't it pretty tough to prove?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jim View Post
    REM. dead give away.
    REM as in the band, or Rapid Eye Movement, or...?
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    Right on Hatidua, that plant and the business it creates has kept my security business alive through these tough times. I've seen electricians, plummers get work and real estate that has been vacant sell. It is already better than before and the opposition to its progress is literaly dying off. I cant wait till everyone in congress has played Grand Theft Auto 3.

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    I don't want the Feds telling ME what I can and can not do.....I want them to tell HIM what he can't do....Talk about your flip floppers You can't have it both ways you know? Otherwise you might get called the H word.

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    There are two kinds of limits on our liberties under the law.

    Malum In Se and Malum Prohibitum

    Actions and things that are Malum In Se are illegal because they are inherently wrong, evil or infringe on the rights of your fellow citizens (in other words "wrong in and of themselves).

    Actions and things that are Malum Prohibitum are illegal simply because they have been made illegal (in other words wrong because somebody said so).

    It would seem to me that a system of laws grounded in individual liberty and constituted under the precept that we are ruled by laws and not by men would be primarily (almost exclusively) on Malum In Se with little to no Malum Prohibitum laws allowed.


    So I'd say that anyone that smokes pot is an idjut, but there is nothing inherently evil about it (providing it to children and driving under the influence notwithstanding).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    providing it to children and driving under the influence notwithstanding.
    I fully, and heartily, agree.

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