Most of them have gotten past building bikes that could actually be ridden, and most of what they're doing looks like it's for the shock value alone. Too bad, any of them could build an amazing bike if they weren't so wrapped up in the showmanship. Seems to me they ought to concentrate on building a real bike, and not something that'll never really be used. I'm not a big OCC fan, but at least their older bikes were usable as bikes.