ENOUGH FUKEN WHINING

[bryjcom]

I ll bring the dunk tank.

Make sure the dunk tank target is AR500

[Brock Landers]

Getting back to the original topic, I still don't expect to see major shifts in gun laws throughout the states or at the federal level in the near future. Despite the Democrats' margin of victory in 2012 public opinion still favors gun rights over gun control and support for stricter gun laws has been declining consistently since the 90's.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/1645/guns.aspx

Clinton signed the AWB at a point in time when there was overwhelming public support for stricter gun control. In 2012 the opposite is true, and I am doubtful that Obama will want to waste political capital on an issue that more than half the country disagrees with him on. Also, I don't think this is purely a Democrat vs. Republican issue. It's true that a majority of Republicans support gun rights and a majority of Democrats don't, but polls consistently show healthy minorities in the 20 to 30 percent range in each party that buck those trends. Vermont is one of the bluest states in the country and its gun laws are non-existent; Texas doesn't even allow open carry.

[Guylee]

I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE ALL YELLING ABOUT!

[cofi]

Romney would have been no different on gun control lets be serious

[Bailey Guns]

Does it really matter? We have Obama on the verge of being sworn in for a second term and he's bringing his entire agenda with him this time. It wasn't Romney's fault for not being conservative enough. It wasn't my fault for encouraging others to vote Republican. It wasn't bryjcom's fault for advocating for a Libertarian. We're reaping what we've sown for the last 50 years. Times they are a changin'.

The real problem is the Democrats are far better at this game than conservatives. This argument we're having mirrors life. Democrats are masters at class warfare and social division and they've forced conservatives over and over to play their game by their rules. Conservatives keep trying to do that and continue to get their asses handed to them.

Conservatives are heartless, racist, extreme and hate women and the poor. How do you win when half the country believes that before you even open your mouth?

I dislike liberals as much as the next guy. But the simple truth is they brought their starters and they played to win. They ran the score up and then threw it in our faces and laughed at us while we were complaining about their lack of "sportsmanship".

Pissing and moaning and talking about blame isn't going to change the score.

[Byte Stryke]

I Blame everyone. All of the special little snowflakes clinging to handouts, rattling sabers and sitting on the sofa. all of the -Americans, the D's, the R's and the I's. We are so stupid that we park ourselves in front of the television day after day and swallow the lies and diversity day after day without question. We have accepted the 2 party system, the media, the debt and ballooning corruption that is the "Federal government of the few, funded by the many"
Stop pointing at the ones you do not like and accept that the system has been rigged against you. you no longer have a real say. You have a theater of opinion in which you cast a ballot for a politician that is going to arrive at the same place regardless of who won. The country was lost long ago without a shot fired, we now live in a lie of what was supposed to be.
So when you want someone to blame, Blame your father and his father before him. Blame the system that is, blame yourself for not rising against it.

None are so hopelessly enslaved, as those who falsely believe they are free. The truth has been kept from the depth of their minds by masters who rule them with lies. They feed them on falsehoods till wrong looks like right in their eyes.
-Johann von Goethe

[Irving]

I Blame everyone. All of the special little snowflakes clinging to handouts, rattling sabers and sitting on the sofa. all of the -Americans, the D's, the R's and the I's. We are so stupid that we park ourselves in front of the television day after day and swallow the lies and diversity day after day without question. We have accepted the 2 party system, the media, the debt and ballooning corruption that is the "Federal government of the few, funded by the many"
Stop pointing at the ones you do not like and accept that the system has been rigged against you. you no longer have a real say. You have a theater of opinion in which you cast a ballot for a politician that is going to arrive at the same place regardless of who won. The country was lost long ago without a shot fired, we now live in a lie of what was supposed to be.
So when you want someone to blame, Blame your father and his father before him. Blame the system that is, blame yourself for not rising against it.

Very eloquently spoken Byte. I'm calling my dad and Sharpienad's dad right now...

[Goodburbon]

Me voting for someone nationally had nothing to do with my votes in state politics...Since gun control is on the front burner in the state, not nationally, AND the guy who I didn't vote against would have won even even if everyone who voted like me would have voted AGAINST him. I fail to see the point of your rant Jim.

You're blaming people for not voting against the most likely to win worst of 10 evils.

The blame lies on a party that betrayed it's core principle...conservatism, to appeal to a "wider" section of the electorate with a progressive candidate. The blame does NOT lie on those who noticed the betrayal and would not fall into lock-step behind a progressive conservative.

[Great-Kazoo]

Me voting for someone nationally had nothing to do with my votes in state politics...Since gun control is on the front burner in the state, not nationally, AND the guy who I didn't vote against would have won even even if everyone who voted like me would have voted AGAINST him. I fail to see the point of your rant Jim.

You're blaming people for not voting against the most likely to win worst of 10 evils.

The blame lies on a party that betrayed it's core principle...conservatism, to appeal to a "wider" section of the electorate with a progressive candidate. The blame does NOT lie on those who noticed the betrayal and would not fall into lock-step behind a progressive conservative.

I posted / Ranted because i read all the Hickenpooper says Gun Control. To be surprised or shocked, a state or nation wide call for more CONTROL especially in the gun community is ridiculous . WE the people knew if O stayed in office, IF the dems took CO / Went darker Blue there would be a fight. All the hand wringing OH MY GOD HicK wants tougher laws is bullshit. Everyone needs to stop whining, complaining etc and focus that energy on letters, ph calls PUBLIC ORGANIZED (Peaceful) Protest and let the CO representatives know WE will not stand for it. It's an up hill fight, however if we sit idle and blame each other good by guns we have owned or own.

[Ronin13]

Good bye my friends, I'm moving to MT! That is unless we turn the heat up on our Democrap state legislature and let them know how we feel...