Just bought a new Dillon 650 - what am I missing

[Brian]

you spent too much money on a tool set and the primer flip tray. Generic allen head t handle wrenches and flip tray could have been purchased for under $25 for both items. At least you jumped in with both feet. Enjoy the new addiction.
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Jim, any suggestions on a tool setup that mounts cleanly to the 650? I don't know if COSteve over on arf is also a member here but theres a thread over there where he's showing off his tool setup. I'm about to order in a couple 650 setups - one for a customer and one for me, and I'd appreciate any advice, or I'll probably just grab the Dillon kit.

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_42/33...1_25_2012.html

Also, has anybody tried that Frankford Vibraprime? Looks pretty awesome, but is it worth $40-50?

[Brian]

Might as well throw my list up as well, for any feedback. Maybe down the road it'll help someone else who is trying to add up everything they might want/need for handgun reloading. There are a few things on here that probably qualify as "nice to have" instead of "need to have" as well.

For 9mm/45acp:

16944 XL650 in 9mm
14406 9mm carbide dies
15161 9mm case gauge
21079 casefeed assembly sm. pistol
22052 Strong Mount
17950 Alum Roller
22214 Bullet Tray
19484 DVD
10443 Machine Cover
21146 Spare Parts Kit
20056 4pk Primer Pickup Tubes
21528 Pistol Decapping Pins 10 pack
14067 Dillon Die Lock Rings
21044 Powder Check system
11555 Toolholder w/ 1" bench wrench and hex keys (or alternative)
13606 Primer Flip Tray (or alternative)
Akro Bins
Ebay 650 Spent Primer Upgrade
Something non-gun related for my wife to make up for more junk in the basement

Adds 45acp:
21071 45acp conversion kit
14404 45acp dies
15166 45acp case gauge
22059 650 quick change kit (powd. measure, powd. die, toolhead, stand)
21072 650 casefeed plate large pistol
20982 650 priming quick change, large

Does not include scale, tumbler/cleaner, reloading manuals, lube.
Probably no need for a trimmer for 9mm/45acp, right?

[NFATrustGuy]

Hi Brian,

One thing you might need to add is an extra powder die for your powder check system on your 45 tool head. The powder feed needs a powder die AND the powder check system needs a powder die. I missed this when I added my 9mm conversion. It's easy enough to rob a powder die from a different tool head, but that sorta defeats the purpose of having duplicates of everything to make the conversion easier/quicker. For $11, it's kinda a no-brainer IMHO.

Rod

[Great-Kazoo]

Jim, any suggestions on a tool setup that mounts cleanly to the 650? I don't know if COSteve over on arf is also a member here but theres a thread over there where he's showing off his tool setup. I'm about to order in a couple 650 setups - one for a customer and one for me, and I'd appreciate any advice, or I'll probably just grab the Dillon kit.

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_42/33...1_25_2012.html

Also, has anybody tried that Frankford Vibraprime? Looks pretty awesome, but is it worth $40-50?

I lucked in to a dillon tool stand (gratis) few weeks ago. it's nice, but something that cannot be done other ways. Like a magnetic strip / mount. My dillon tool stand is mounted to a shelf between the presses . Easier access for all users.
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Everbilt-...7962/202249708

If you already have allen heads (who doesn't) why have more of them? Some my only have 1 set of allen wrenches, myself i'm literally tripping over them. HF has them for a good price. realistically the need for a super duty set is not there.

[Great-Kazoo]

Hi Brian,

One thing you might need to add is an extra powder die for your powder check system on your 45 tool head. The powder feed needs a powder die AND the powder check system needs a powder die. I missed this when I added my 9mm conversion. It's easy enough to rob a powder die from a different tool head, but that sorta defeats the purpose of having duplicates of everything to make the conversion easier/quicker. For $11, it's kinda a no-brainer IMHO.

Rod

Any time you want to do a caliber change it's easier (yet not cheaper) to do a caliber quick change assy. OR if staying with one tool head use hornady lock rings. This enables you to change dies / calibers with little or no adjustments when swapped.

[Hoser]

I just cry once and order a powder measure for all of my toolheads that I use for non-precision ammo. Saves huge time adjusting and tinkering. But I am lazy like that.

[asmo]

Hoser.. Will you adopt me?

[hghclsswhitetrsh]

Hoser.. Will you adopt me?

Get in line.

[NFATrustGuy]

Yah guys, I'm in complete agreement with the need/desire to buy a powder measure for each caliber. What I'm saying is that he also needs **ANOTHER** powder die for his powder **CHECKING** system. The little electronic buzzer piece slips into a powder die. This **EXTRA** powder die for the powder **CHECKING** system is **NOT** included in the conversion kit.

It's a bummer to order many $$ worth of stuff and then be short an $11 powder die. Lucky for me, I happened to be in Scottsdale shortly after I realized my mistake and stopped by Dillon and purchased one in person. Just trying to save the OP from making my mistake.

RWW

[brutal]

I just cry once and order a powder measure for all of my toolheads that I use for non-precision ammo. Saves huge time adjusting and tinkering. But I am lazy like that.

LOL at Chucky.