A post about protecting these kids in these schools

[Atrain1]

Leave that job to the city LE & SRO program.

Yeah cause that is working great.

Fortunately incidents like these are relatively rare. Maybe two or three a year, usually over very quickly, randomly scattered across the country.

Armed private security at a public school will not be a popular idea.

Wow what country do you live in? And 1 a year is to much. And they are over very quickly that is why I want to do this, I might not be able to stop all deaths but it would not get up to 26. Who knows I might not be able to stop it at all but I will sure try.

It should be a requirement for all teacher applicants that they possess not only a quality and approved firearm, but also receive training and carry specific certifications BEFORE they even apply for a teaching position. Once hired, they are required to test out every year they are employeed as a teacher or substitute teachers.

They should also be required to have passed several courses in actual crisis management, restraining out of control individuals, etc. along the exact same lines as those who work with the mentally ill or with "troubled" youth.

And they would need to pay for this training themselves, prior to even being considered for employeement.

I completely agree with this but it will never happen. This is pretty much what I said in the other post.

I don't want armed guards at my kids school...we are not a 3rd world country that needs military presence in every public location

The easy answer is to allow CCW's to CCW in school. Just one teacher with a permit could have stopped the carnage.

Maybe if he was not shot and killed first. I think all teachers should carry and have to train at least every six months.

i would rather our teachers be allowed to ccw then see armed guards/LEO at schools

Why would you not want to know that there is a well trained guard who's only job is to watch out for this situation and to be able to take care of it. What comfort do you have now? What if this would have been your kids school that this happened to? It is people like you who I do not understand and will probably be the reason I will not be able to do this. I am going to fight for this and go as high up as I need to go as I feel it is necessary. I know this is not a 3rd world country but you are wrong if you think we do not need armed guards/staff/police on site. Nothing has worked so far and this is getting worse. When I was a kid they had metal detectors and police at my school, and guess what there were no shootings after that. I guess my point is I do not care about what the parents think about having armed guards at schools, my only concern is keeping this from happening again. I am going to home school my kids until there is a safer environment in the public schooling program.

An armed teacher would 1 do their job as a teacher.
2 then a secondary aspect would be to protect the children and act in the way they were tught and with mandatory timed training would probably do a great job.
A placed leo or armed guard would 1 cause distraction, 2 be wrapped up in government BS, 3 want more pay etc etc etc, and would probably cause more problems than good.

Why do you think this? I believe it would help more than anything. I am talking about having a well trained guard sit in a unmarked car outside of the school maybe in uniform maybe not, it depends on the situation I guess. As far as wanting more pay I am willing to take a pay cut to do this, and anyone who works for me that wont I will can.

[DireWolf]

Why do you think this? I believe it would help more than anything. I am talking about having a well trained guard sit in a unmarked car outside of the school maybe in uniform maybe not, it depends on the situation I guess. As far as wanting more pay I am willing to take a pay cut to do this, and anyone who works for me that wont I will can.

One of the main issues is also going to be response time. Having one or more responders inside the school itself at all times, who are familiar with the daily routine, along with control over all ingress/egress point would go a long way...I think the mandatory for employment option is way out, but that it may be possible to require the training for a minimum number of personnel, based on job/role.

[DHC]

One of the main issues is also going to be response time. Having one or more responders inside the school itself at all times, who are familiar with the daily routine, along with control over all ingress/egress point would go a long way...I think the mandatory for employment option is way out, but that it may be possible to require the training for a minimum number of personnel, based on job/role.

I cannot subscribe to "mandatory" requirements for someone to be armed and respond. For one, that merely leads to a sense of false security. For another, given the mindset of many of the teachers and school administrators I have met - the last thing they would want is to have anything to do with guns - so I don't want them associated with firearms either. Far better, in my mind anyway, that the system be voluntary and all volunteers (teachers, staff and other school workers) would be required to undergo a thorough background investigation, and then participate in initial and ongoing training. I am willing to bet there are plenty of teachers and staff who would be willing to participate.

[275RLTW]

Yeah cause that is working great.

Newton CT did NOT have an SRO present where other nearby schools did. The deterrent is working fine. I am in no way suggesting that the SRO program is adequate to protect every student from every threat, rather it is very underfunded and understaffed. I do not believe that armed citizens need to be standing in front of our schools (as much as we want to) and it needs to be left to the PD. There are ways of convincing city councels that there are funds, personnel, and definately a need for more SROs. Using the PD would be an immediate solution as most depts already have a program in place and would be much easier to get by liberals (a large majority of liberals support the SRO program) than an armed security guard out front who is in no better shape than the teachers you are resistant to arm. An ERT cannot get to any school in time to prevent the violence...the officer MUST be physically present every day.