A post about protecting these kids in these schools

[Atrain1]

I have the resources to put armed guards at these elementary schools through my company. I just have to figure out how to go about doing it. I need to know who to talk to to get it approved? My wife does not think it will happen because she says parents would not feel comfortable with an armed guard on school grounds, which I find stupid you would think they would feel more comfortable. These guards would be well trained and very good marksmen. I run the company as far as being in the field I just do not take care of the business side of it. Any input and or help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

[275RLTW]

Leave that job to the city LE & SRO program.

[Great-Kazoo]

The ins plus liberal opposition makes it impossible. They don't want protection, only a perfect where crime & gun's don't exist.

[alxone]

The ins plus liberal opposition makes it impossible. They don't want protection, only a perfect where crime & gun's don't exist.

but its for the children , drugs are illegal and nobody does those right ?

[Clint45]

Fortunately incidents like these are relatively rare. Maybe two or three a year, usually over very quickly, randomly scattered across the country.

Armed private security at a public school will not be a popular idea.

[cmailliard]

Leave that job to the city LE & SRO program.

Unfortunately this to me is part of the problem. They are stretched to thin - One SRO may cover 2-3 schools. When they are in school they are helping school security break up arguing matches, busting kids for smoking, other nonsense that distracts them from providing true security. I know an SRO who was 10-15 reports behind one week, do you think he is at the door, in the cafeteria or otherwise being a sheepdog? No he is doing paperwork. SRO's need to be supplemented by additional SRO's or I believe private security. SRO's are there to be the liaison between school and LE and to provide subject matter knowledge to school administration on matters of the law, not provide security. Security is just an additional, albeit small, benefit of a LEO in schools. All this MJ money schools are going to be getting now - Put it towards additional armed security.

[1200fps]

Pardon me for being captain obvious but this sort of thing didn't happen nor were armed guards needed in schools before they took God out of school.

[fitz19d]

Yes, the pledge of allegiance and catholic school for everyone, that fixes it...

Religion doesn't stop crazy people, if anything it makes it worse. From visiting a lot of psych insitutions due to an ex GF who lived in them as well as my current job. All to many cling to the idea of religion and spout it, take actions on it, but don't actually have the first clue about it. (Just whatever twisted version they make up.)

Would be nice if that somehow actually somehow was the easy answer, but it just isn't.

Mental Health system in this country and enforcement is non existant. There is no money in it for corporations and the backlash from the old days of padded rooms and shock therapy has everyone too limp wristed about putting any restrictions on the "freedom" of the deranged.

[Bailey Guns]

Pardon me for being captain obvious but this sort of thing didn't happen nor were armed guards needed in schools before they took God out of school.

School violence in the US goes back to at least 1927. I don't necessarily disagree with your premise but I don't necessarily think allowing prayer in school will solve the problem, either.

The problem is there are crazy, unhinged people in our society and they aren't always easy to spot. There really is no effective way of dealing with all these people. As I heard on the radio yesterday (attributed to an FBI profiler and paraphrased), "You can rest assured there is someone, somewhere, planning an even more horrific attack than this one".

We live in a free(?) and open society. One of the risks of the freedom and openness we enjoy is having to endure unthinkable events like this. We can't stop it. Ever. We can fortify schools until they resemble maximum security prisons...and then someone on the inside will go berserk and kill someone. We can put armed guards in the schools and they won't be in the right place at the right time to prevent a tragedy.

Every time something like this happens we ask ourselves the same questions over and over. Feel-good, knee-jerk reactions lead to new "security" measures and new legislation and the same thing eventually happens again.

The bottom line is schools and other "gun free zones" are soft and attractive targets for someone looking to vent their maniacal rage. As soon as we take guns away, they'll use a bomb, or fire or a knife (happened recently in China). When we fortify the schools they'll attack a hospital or a church or a mall (they already do).

There really are no good answers as to "why does this happen?" and "what can we do to prevent it from happening again?" and we might as well realize that.

[DireWolf]

I think there are quite a bit of good-bang-for-the-buck measures which can be undertaken by the schools to enhance security without going off the deep end in the wrong direction....For example:

1. All entrances should be locked throughout the entire school day except for active (in-use) entrances which are fully monitored
2. CCTV cameras above all ingress/egress points, with alerts to administrative staff eny time an external door is opened
3. Classroom doors are locked while in class
4. This one may not fly with the school disctrict, but there should be a requirement that at least one administrator is onsite at all times who has undergon annual urban CQB training and is carrying concealed...


Just my 2 cents...