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    I can vouge for Kraven, good guy and definitely fits in with this group. Maybe he just likes to poke the bear...

    Kraven, just remember, most of these "litards" enter a discussion based on their emotions, best thing you can do is tell the facts and history. Or you can try and put them into your shoes. For example, I have an aquaintence that is for banning all guns. I asked him what he would do to protect his family?. He said, we arent talking about "my" family. I said, so you wouldnt do anything that was in your power to protect your 2 sons and/or wife from harm. You would just sit by and allow it. He didnt have much to say after that, granted he also deleted me from his friends list on FB, which is fine with me. But I also got a "sorry" i see what you mean.

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    PS, you should work on your rants. It was pretty weak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TriggerHappy View Post
    PS, you should work on your rants. It was pretty weak.
    I'm generally more pissed when I am quiet and civil.

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    truly not enough cussing for a good rant but i believe it speaks to us all, I have some idiot friend as well and he wants no guns nor any violence in the world and i wished him all the luck with that overall 3 out of 10 rant
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    Personally, I would just kind of shut down on that person, and all other people who aren't your closest friends. That's what I've decided to do (if I can manage it). I think there is something to be said about simply not discussing a topic with a person. Kind of like when your kid asks you about something, and you reply with, "I'll tell you when you're older." They KNOW that you could tell them, but you are purposely not telling them, so they go apeshit.

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    Do you think felons should be able to have guns? People who have abused their spouses? People who are mentally ill?
    The first two, yes. Mentally ill is a more difficult topic. I'm sure you've seen me post this before, but if you have been released to society, then you should have all your rights. If you can't keep your hands off your spouse, or have a mental illness that can't be treated, and you are still in the general public, then that is a different problem that needs addressing.
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    this sums up things nicely to me. We create areas where people cannot defend themselves then get outraged when crazies attack. I don't think you can get that point across to people that don't believe in defending themselves though.






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    So I tried talking to him again, and attempted to have a more civil conversation, and maybe it is the power of the internet and he was feeling ballsy...but this was the response I got when I essentially stated: I own firearms because I like having them and at this time it is a right allowed to me by the Constitution. He called me a hypocrite and said verbatim the following:

    "I want the cops to come into your home and RIP the guns from your hands and kick you in the face...yeah, there you go, have some extremism."

    So yeah over the past 10 years his views and mine have effectively moved in other directions, but I thought he knew a bit better than to think I will ever allow someone to advocate violence against me especially in my home and for me to tolerate it. um, no
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    I have had my fair share of mini fights with those who believe complete ban and those that think the 2nd AMendment is for hunting. Emotions are high, it is being plastered everywhere. People are feeding off of it and making emotional responses. Dont feed in to them now.

    I had my cousin of all people make a comment to my facebook page (is only veiwable to family and close friends) trying to pick a fight. I simply said

    "Not doing this here and right now. Lets do this with you are not on your period."


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