Your Thoughts on This Please.....

[Zigfried]

Europe is not America. I've spent significant time in parts of Europe and you can't compare our background to that of any European country.

You guys' beloved games condition thinking. For a young person they condition thinking in the wrong way. If you want to play first person shooter, go to the range, or better Afghanistan or Syria. They shoot back there.

Not one in a hundred kids is going to rape the girl next door because of watching a sex film - but the one percent that will is why most normal people would want to jail you for allowing children to watch even garden variety porn. Similarly, you need to draw a line with violent games - its not a game - its horrible.

[Irving]

Not one in a hundred kids is going to rape the girl next door because of watching a sex film - but the one percent that will is why most normal people would want to jail you for allowing children to watch even garden variety porn. Similarly, you need to draw a line with violent games - its not a game - its horrible.

Video games cause violence and porn causes rape?

[Sharpienads]

Video games cause violence and porn causes rape?

Absofuckinlutely. (sarcasm)

We can discuss the merits (or lack thereof) of violent video games or porn, but to blame an individual's actions on either of those is ridiculous.

What is going on around here lately? I think we're all going a little crazy.

[ChunkyMonkey]

Video games cause violence and porn causes rape?

Obviously you have never been to Japan.

[BuffCyclist]

That is disgusting...I believe those types of video games do tend to demoralise kids. I also think if you're over the age of 25 and you still sit around and play video games it is time to grow up.

Hmm, interesting. I'm 27, engaged, own 3 nice cars with my Fiancee, own our home, have paid off all debt (not student loans or even credit card debt) aside from our house, have a career and am going BACK to school to further my education by getting an engineering degree this time (first time was astrophysics). I play those "types of video games" and am somehow grown up, responsible and do not have the urge to go out on mass shooting sprees. But I do not have the ability to read about these types of events without being affected.

You must have meant that statement more generally or I am just the exception.

I tend to agree with this. If you can't tell the difference between video games and real life then you've already got problems. Besides, even Mario threw fireballs at animals and jumped on them until they died. What's worse than that?

This. I grew up on NES, SNES, N64, PS2, Xbox, Xbox360 and Wii. Mario has underlying violence, however it is not as blatantly obvious as the clip the OP posted.

Its not really about this particular example. Its about the culture of violence that has engulfed this nation.

Why do you have a nation like Switzerland that MANDATES that half the population be armed with an full auto weapon and have so few crimes, yet have an American society armed almost as well and have so much crime?

The answer is "Culture"

Perhaps what you're insinuating is that we need to arm OUR population with full auto weapons in order to reduce crime. I'm for it. But I think forced military training would accompany. They simply would not put full auto weapons in the civilian hands without being able to completely control them.

OMG! It's a digital image's fault! They must be STOPPED!

Yeah, OK.
I played this level, and didn't feel the need to go slaughter hundreds of people. Matter of fact, 4.7 million copies of this particular game were sold just in the first 24 hours after release. That's a LOT of people that played that game and didn't feel like slaying an airport full of people.

I played Black Ops 2 for a few hours after work last night with at least 2 other members from this forum. Killed hundreds of 'people'. We must be psychopaths bent on murderous rampage.


For what it's worth, I think it's the smilies' fault.




This actually reminds me, I have to go over to one of those member's house in a bit. And I'm taking a gun

I played this level (and all other CODs) and can honestly say that that level was a little too realistic for me. I don't recall if I shot anyone or not, I think I tried shooting the guys first then realized I couldn't.

And on topic with your quote, when I get home from work in the morning, after sleeping the day away, I will probably wake up, grab a beer and plop down on the couch to relax and continue to play Black Ops 2, have barely had time these past few weeks.

Absofuckinlutely. (sarcasm)

We can discuss the merits (or lack thereof) of violent video games or porn, but to blame an individual's actions on either of those is ridiculous.

What is going on around here lately? I think we're all going a little crazy.

Yes, we are going crazy. Too much abuse of our beloved hobby and we're going to suffer the consequences of people who need real help but couldn't get it.

[bryjcom]

I think you guys are assuming that we are taking that "leap" even when we are not. I don't think for a minute that some kid has played one of these games and said "I'm gonna go shoot up a XYZ today" because I played this video game.

What I'm saying is if our society as a whole is tolerant of such violence to our fellow human, even if it is fantasy, then is it a real surprise when we see this type of stuff happen in reality? Like I said in the a previous post, this video game is just an example of what we accept as OK in a humongous ocean of games, tv, and movies.

This type of stuff was seldom ever seen 30-40 years ago and the funny thing is we didn't have a mass shooting every few months or so. Is it a correlation? I believe it is but belief is a whole lot different than knowledge..

Its pretty hard to make a case saying that the video I posted does NOT desensitize our youth to violence.

[bryjcom]

You know what???

I am so FUCKING sick of you guys saying, " Well I played these games and I turned out fine".

Thats the lamest fucking argument I've seen. It doesn't prove or disprove anything.


I got news for you. I play these games as well. I own most of the COD games. I've played this level numerous times. I turned out fine also. But I also think that this shit desensitizes society as a whole.

[bryjcom]

Perhaps what you're insinuating is that we need to arm OUR population with full auto weapons in order to reduce crime. I'm for it. But I think forced military training would accompany. They simply would not put full auto weapons in the civilian hands without being able to completely control them.




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No. I'm simply posing a question to you guys. What is it that makes our population so damn nuts? For all intensive purposes we are as well armed as the Swiss. So what makes us more crazy than the Swiss?

[Sharpienads]

So why are you yelling at us? Why don't you join or start or campaign to ban violent video games?

I think personal experience shapes the way a lot of people view the world. I think it would be foolish not to.

[bryjcom]

So why are you yelling at us? Why don't you join or start or campaign to ban violent video games?

I think personal experience shapes the way a lot of people view the world. I think it would be foolish not to.

All this talk about banning video games. Didn't hear anybody say that. Maybe I missed it?

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Maybe you missed that post. I just get pissed with the lame ass arguments. Its like when you are in an argument with an Anti and you use the excuse, "Well I have guns and I didn't go kill anybody". I understand what your saying but its a dishonest argument at best.


I'm not advocating for the banning of ANY video game. I"m not willing to trade one right for another. Speech is protected, end of story. Doesn't mean I can't say your speech is partly responsible for destroying society's morals and values though.