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    Im a big boy, I can take it. but don't just swear, give me the substantive underpinnings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waywardson174 View Post
    Im a big boy, I can take it. but don't just swear, give me the substantive underpinnings.
    Let's start with why you have the impression that a one hour chat with someone is going to give an idea if someone is mentally stable or not.
    Then we can discuss why you feel it is acceptable to have to pass a mental test to exercise a right.
    After that we can talk about where you would set the threshold for what is mentally ill behavior, and what is not, and who will write the test.

    Do you have any experience with DUI stuff? They make you take classes, and in the class you have to fill out a very personal questionnaire. One of the questions is, "How often do you cry at sad movies?" The options are Always, Sometimes, Never. If you select never, they accuse you of lying. If you select Sometimes, they diagnose you with depression and recommend an entirely different government class to help you with your "problem". I shudder to think what happens if you said always. This test is administered by someone working the alcohol class, and the results are looked at and grade by a person who has never even spoken with you and only knows what is in your criminal or driving record. Don't you dare cry in frustration when trying to defend against such ludicrous charges, because the response is, "See? This is exactly what I'm talking about. You clearly have a problem."

    Your suggestion is offering up a nightmare of One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, in the hopes that it will save gun rights. In reality, you'll just lose out on both ends.
    Please abandon whatever further ideas you have about this. You are thinking about this incorrectly, and merely suggesting ideas like this is dangerous for the entire nation. Cease and desist.
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    We all agree the problem is not firearms, as it is not that of automobiles or aircraft. What is known is psychological evaluations are subjective and in the moment. It is not a criteria that can be relied upon to provide the results for which one is hoping. Moreover it would seem a willing walk into harms way to entrust one's fate to an individual that may be subject to the manipulation of their employer or guided by their own prejudice and bias.

    These shootings are manifestation of a systemic societal ill. Which is beyond the scope of the question.

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