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    Quote Originally Posted by PugnacAutMortem View Post
    Was the theater parking lot the best place to do this? Probably not, but when it comes down to it it's not illegal to make a firearms transaction in a parking lot. But seriously...most of you don't have ANY problems with the LEO response? Someone above said "pick your battles"...well I really can't see how this isn't the EXACT type of battle that should be picked. Are we really going to let the sheeple demonize a legal transaction just because it makes them feel funny? Let's just keep giving them an inch folks...
    See this is where you and others got completely lost. Nobody "demonized" a transaction. Whoever called the police did know that that was what was being done in the parking lot.

    And yes, it wasn't illegal. And no one got arrested.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PugnacAutMortem View Post
    I agree...I'm actually blown away by the comments on here. Was the theater parking lot the best place to do this? Probably not, but when it comes down to it it's not illegal to make a firearms transaction in a parking lot. But seriously...most of you don't have ANY problems with the LEO response? Someone above said "pick your battles"...well I really can't see how this isn't the EXACT type of battle that should be picked. Are we really going to let the sheeple demonize a legal transaction just because it makes them feel funny? Let's just keep giving them an inch folks...
    Lets not get crazy here. Did the cops take his guns? No. Did they beat him up and demand answers? No. Did the caller tell 911 "I just saw two normal looking good guys selling a perfectly legal bolt action rifle and they are smiling and appear perfectly harmless"? Probably not. What they probably got was a 911 call from some scared and audibly upset person stating "There are two guys outside of this movie theater with a rifle, it looks like they are waiting for a movie to let out" or something to that degree. The story the cops get is the skewed and blown out of proportion view of the caller, which is the story they have to go by until they figure out what the hell is really going on.

    Now, to address the second issue. The choice of location. Just a few days ago I traded a firearm to another forum member for another firearm. We met in springs, and the northern side of springs just off of I-25 was looking to be the most convenient place for both parties, and was a fair middle ground. Did we meet at the mall just off of academy? Hell no, that would be ridiculous, there was just a shooting in a mall, and we both agreed, that would be pretty dumb, as it would freak people out. We picked a nearby McDonalds. When we show up, there was an armored car parked at the entrace doorway, obviously getting the money to take it to the bank. We both get out of our vehicles, nothing in hand and chuckle, both saying to some degree "looks like we are waiting until they leave". After they left we parked in the back by the dumpsters opened the doors of the vehicles to obscure anyone's view of what we were doing. Deal was completed without a hiccup.

    Now, is it illegal to conduct a firearms transaction in front of an armored car? No, it isn't.

    Is it just a plain stupid to pull an AR-15 out of your trunk in front of an armored car? Fuck yeah it is. For that matter, is it illegal to walk into a bank with a ski mask on? No, but are you going to bring down a world of chaotic hell on yourself? Yup.

    This is just simple mistake of a poorly chosen meeting spot and perhaps not the best attention to one's surroundings. No big deal though really. Not a major mistake on anyone's part. At least the OP complied and was a cooperative gentleman and not a raging asshole screaming "you fucking assholes are violating my constitutional rights!, blah blah blah". Use it to learn from and move on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lead_magnet View Post
    This is just simple mistake of a poorly chosen meeting spot and perhaps not the best attention to one's surroundings. No big deal though really. Not a major mistake on anyone's part. At least the OP complied and was a cooperative gentleman and not a raging asshole screaming "you fucking assholes are violating my constitutional rights!, blah blah blah". Use it to learn from and move on.
    Well if it came off as that was the type of reaction I was advocating for then my apologies because I definitely do not think that is an appropriate response in any situation. "Battle" is a strong word and I probably shouldn't have used it.

    I think TriggerHappy hit the nail on the head though, we are being relagated to skulking around to alleviate people unconfortable feeling about guns. I personally don't like feeling like I'm doing something wrong because someone doesn't know the law and just simply thinks I'm doing something wrong. I definitely agree the place could have been chosen more carefully...but at the same time I think it's our duty to help educate folks to the fact that guns aren't bad and to use their head in situations like these.
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    two things. 35 minutes is not super fast, isn't Arapahoe county sheriff's office that far on foot? Who'd thunk it would be less shameful to buy weed than a legal firearm. I bought a juicer in a parking lot from a dude on craig's list. No cops.

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    people are edge, someone saw you and it all worked out okay. the police did their job, you did your job and everyone went home happy. too bad people are soo up tight, but given the recent events I can't blame them too much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glennski View Post
    So, I'm wondering what everyone thinks about this situation?
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    As far as deals at Sportsmans or such remember, if a transaction is conducted on the premises of a FFL, a 4473 must be executed at time of transfer. Let's not put them in a bad spot.
    This, I did not know! I'll have to remember this. Thanks for the heads up!

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    I didn't see anything wrong with the police response in following up on a dispatch call. No telling what was called in and except for the opinions (everyone has them) it sounds as though they handled it appropriately. Not that the cops should be called in the first place but once they are they can't reasonably just ignore it.

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    I use the parking lot of the local S/O, never had a problem except some people don't like to show up there hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm wonder why.

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    +1 to lead_magnet's comments

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