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    Default What's likely to be banned? When?

    To address the second question first, will Obama issue an Executive Order, or will he at least give Congress some time to work?

    More importantly, what are we likely to see at a national level?

    -ban on mags with capacity greater than ten
    -all gun transfers must go through background check

    Those seem pretty likely to me, and at least logically defensible. I'm not saying I agree with them, just that I can understand someone who does.

    What about the cosmetic features they went after last time? Pistol grips, bayonets, muzzle devices... What about shotguns with capacity >x? Online ammo sales, ammo sales in excess of a certain quantity... What else?

    I know that some people won't be happy unless all you can get is single shot 22s and 410s, but I'm asking for realistic scenarios. Not the politics, but a shopping list, if you will. What do I need to get now while I still can?

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    On the federal level I doubt we get any gun control. I know a lot of people are going to say I'm crazy, but you can't get anything remotely controversial through the house and senate right now ... I just don't see any major gun control law passing in the next session (and if they don't get it in the beginning of the next session the momentum will be gone).

    As for Executive Order, too many people (this president included) are under the false impression that EOs are as powerful as Royal Edicts.

    There are only a few things that Obama could do with Executive Orders vis-a-vis guns.
    • He could order the ATF to stop processing Form 4 paperwork, which would effectively stop Americans from being able to buy full automatic machine guns, sound suppressors and short barreled rifles and shotguns. That would be annoying but not permanent and not a very broad attack on the Second Amendment.
    • He could shut down the NICS background check system. Which would actually end up putting MORE guns in the hands of criminals since it would just force most gun purchasers to wait 72 hours but would no longer weed out the bad guys.
    • He could block imports of firearms and ammunition.


    That's really about it. No outright bans, just minor interferences with purchase of new guns from gun dealers.
    I say let him go for it because the dirty little secret is that gun control harms Democrats. The '94 AWB is part of the reason we never had a President Gore.


    Now on the state level, Hick and the Denver/Boulder/Aspen/Pueblo Demonrats could possibly pull off an AWB. But then there's a good chance that will cause them to hand the state back over to Republicans (if only the Colorado Republican Party wasn't a [rhymes with Buster Duck] of feckless morons).
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    Probably the same stuff as previous, and FTF sales, national registration likely, permit system? Even more importation restrictions, magazine buttons like california since it works so good there. Oh and those damn barrel shrouds!

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    Barrel shroud?
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    Likely to be banned??!?

    I refuse to accept your premiss. Get in touch with your representatives. Write, call, email, send smoke signals or carrier pigeons. Whatever it takes.
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    Look at Canadian gun owners for a bit of inspiration.

    The Canuks instituted a gun registry and a significant number of gun owners have ignored it. Now they're talking about scrapping it because it's been nothing but a waste of money and police resources.

    If there are bans it's time for civil disobedience.

    Expect boat sales to go through the roof.
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    I'm also highly curious about this thread. I don't want to contribute to fear mongering but have a few extra bucks that might be used for sporting arms related items.

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    I'm saving up for a Daniel Defense Mk18 SBR... I'm going to be awful pissed if something stops that from happening (March/April timeframe at the earliest). I'm wondering if I should be stocking up on PMAGs and preemptively buying "non-CA Restricted" mags for the Sig P229 I plan on buying next year as well...

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    The problem with your voice of calm Zundfolge is that this president has already demonstrated he doesn't recognize limits on his powers. I think we all need to take a collective deep breath before panicking but I also think Obama will push the envelope of what he can do via Executive Order just because he has nothing left to lose and he's ideologically opposed to the Second Amendment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aloha_Shooter View Post
    The problem with your voice of calm Zundfolge is that this president has already demonstrated he doesn't recognize limits on his powers. I think we all need to take a collective deep breath before panicking but I also think Obama will push the envelope of what he can do via Executive Order just because he has nothing left to lose and he's ideologically opposed to the Second Amendment.
    ^^^^THIS.....
    i totally agree, he's used an executive order for his own agenda once, so he's more than likely to do it again

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