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    Advantages????

    Well you could gin up several identity and financial fraud schemes while committing felony tax evasion. You could annoy every other person in the US with frivolous law suits including every politician, judge, and law enforcement official (local, state, and federal) to the point that everyone who maintains citizenship in the USA would be willing to pay for your room/board and health care during a long stretch at Club Fed.

    So if you really would like to be a sovereign citizen and you have aspirations of spending lots of time doing pushups and situps with your bunkmate in your 6x8, Via con Dios!

    Be safe.
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    Let me chime on this one: I know people who renounced their US citizenship. It's for the Taxes. Basically, no matter where you live you will always as a US citizen owe some money to the tax man. Even if you live abroad, have a business abroad and no income in the US you have to report your foreign income and be taxed here....

    Personally, I wouldn't do it for an empire! And I know that one day I will have pay tax in 2 countries.
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    All yours gang........
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    I've heard that you can get 100 miles per a gallon of tap water in a regular engine. All you need is this little device that the oil companies and the US government has been keeping secret from the rest of us.

    Seriously, I read it on the Interwebz
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    Quote Originally Posted by ruthabagah View Post
    Let me chime on this one: I know people who renounced their US citizenship. It's for the Taxes. Basically, no matter where you live you will always as a US citizen owe some money to the tax man. Even if you live abroad, have a business abroad and no income in the US you have to report your foreign income and be taxed here....

    Personally, I wouldn't do it for an empire! And I know that one day I will have pay tax in 2 countries.
    I agree I could not find to much info on it but what I did find was not good. It is usually done by extremest who blow things up or hurt law enforcement, I really wish i would not have looked it and hope that anyone monitoring my computer (if doing so) does not think that I have any kind of assotiation with these type of people nor do I want to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atrain1 View Post
    I agree I could not find to much info on it but what I did find was not good. It is usually done by extremest who blow things up or hurt law enforcement, I really wish i would not have looked it and hope that anyone monitoring my computer (if doing so) does not think that I have any kind of assotiation with these type of people nor do I want to.
    You were given the answer twice in this thread and then state that it's done by extremists that blow things up and hurt law enforcement?

    Here it is a third time with a whole article on why people do it.

    Should You Renounce Your U.S. Citizenship?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atrain1 View Post
    I found it kind of interesting that you can give up your right to be a US citizen. I remember hearing about it along time ago but never gave it much thought. Is there any Pros to doing this? Seems like the cons would out weigh the pros to me, but I guess I could be wrong.
    maybe if very rich. US expects you to pay income tax no matter where you live. But your first thought was correct for most of us, the cons would balance higher.

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    If I give up my citizenship will I get free/discounted healthcare, tuition, housing, and be tax-free?

    Whenever my wife asks me why I never wear pants around the house I simply remind her:

    "A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.” - Winston Churchill

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    Quote Originally Posted by mevshooter View Post
    If I give up my citizenship will I get free/discounted healthcare, tuition, housing, and be tax-free?

    Only if you re-enter through Mexico.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atrain1 View Post
    I just do not understand why someone would do it I guess. I looked it up cause i was talking to someone who thinks the law no longer would apply to them. I personally like having my rights as an American and would not give them up even if that were true.
    What rights, seems they are being blown to the wind as we speak...
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