sovereign citizen

[Zundfolge]

If you renounce your citizenship you lose your 2A rights (at least in so far as buying through a dealer ... and if they get the end of the "gun show loophole" ALL transactions will have to go through a dealer).

There's a line item on the 4473 that directly asks you if you've renounced your citizenship ... you check "yes" and the transaction is over and you leave without a new gun.

[centrarchidae]

Renunciation of citizenship, to be recognized, needs to be done in person, to a US Consulate officer, while abroad.

Advantage: no longer liable for US taxes.

Disadvantages: You'll never legally enter the US again.

Anything that claims you can renounce, while in the US, and stay here, is a bunch of Freetard crap.

[Atrain1]

Renunciation of citizenship, to be recognized, needs to be done in person, to a US Consulate officer, while abroad.

Advantage: no longer liable for US taxes.

Disadvantages: You'll never legally enter the US again.

Anything that claims you can renounce, while in the US, and stay here, is a bunch of Freetard crap.

And this is one of the reasons I looked into it. My friend who wants to do this thinks he can stay here and speed on the highways and pretty much not have to abide by any of the laws. I also like learning new stuff and found it interesting that people actually do this. So in no way shape or form am I going to give up my citizenship nor leave my country that my family has fought for no matter how bad it gets. My friend is not a bad gy either so do not get the wrong idea of the company I keep. He is just freaking out about losing his guns and thinks this might be the answer. He also was only talking about doing it if Obama declared marshal law.

[Inspector Fowler]

And this is one of the reasons I looked into it. My friend who wants to do this thinks he can stay here and speed on the highways and pretty much not have to abide by any of the laws. I also like learning new stuff and found it interesting that people actually do this. So in no way shape or form am I going to give up my citizenship nor leave my country that my family has fought for no matter how bad it gets. My friend is not a bad gy either so do not get the wrong idea of the company I keep. He is just freaking out about losing his guns and thinks this might be the answer. He also was only talking about doing it if Obama declared marshal law.

The Sovereign Citizens are a dangerous group, as has been mentioned here.

Explain it gently to your friend, who does not sound like the kind of person who will make a cardboard license plate and somehow think that laws do not apply to him. I work in a college town and I write plenty of tickets to foreign nationals every semester, and that seems to work out just fine with our court system.

In another thread I said that all that will happen is liberal politicians will wax poetic about the dangers of high cap mags, and their voters will hold vigils for them. Conservative politicians will fail to bring up the issue of our disgusting mental health system because fixing it will take money, and increasing taxes (even as a way to hold down 2A rights for the tens of millions of safe, legal gun owners) would enrage their base, so they'll "stand firm" on gun control and conservatives will laud their courage. In the end, something similar to the old AWB will be passed. I am not saying this is a good thing, it is disgraceful. But we will not have the National Guard patrolling College Ave in FoCo, taking guns away from people on "the list".

Martial Law is not going to happen. I can say that confidently because if it does, I highly doubt this particular forum will still be online so that you can all prove how wrong I was

[StagLefty]

Is the air thinner in Greeley ???

[Great-Kazoo]

Is the air thinner in Greeley ???

Not really read this shit i C&P from the pearlmutter awb thread.
I hate to be the non angry accepting person... But it's coming and after all those kids got shot I don't think it can be stopped. I'm just looking to profit from it financially, while keeping my personal stash.

One liberal disappears another 2 take their place. #@$%^ ME

[zteknik]

So if you renounce your citizenship and get caught staying here-where do they deport you to????Chicago???

[Atrain1]

So if you renounce your citizenship and get caught staying here-where do they deport you to????Chicago???

That is a good question cause as I understand it now you do not belong to any country.

[zteknik]

That is a good question cause as I understand it now you do not belong to any country.

Would they then bring back your citizenship just so they can charge you with whatever the crime and incarcirate you??
The whole thing sounds loopy...

[speedysst]

Actually there are ways to become an expat. Most of it has to do with taxes though. I even had a list of the best countries to be an expat including Panama, Costa Rica and South Africa.