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    Trijicon reflex sights no batteries at all, tritium and fiber optics powered so you don't take your hand away from fire control... oops weak logic again I guess

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    The trijicon reflex has shitty glass (blue tint when looking through the sight) and a dim sight picture, especially when in a dark environment looking into a bright one, so yeah pretty much.

    Look, I don't make any more money if Aimpoint does or not, and I don't care about brand names. It is just a matter what does the job better. If the reflex was so badass why wouldn't every Police department and military branch be using this brand new and awesome technology? Wait, its not brand new, it is many many years old, and still sucks ass. Does it require batteries? No. Does it use fiber optics? Yep. Does that make it worth a shit? Nope. Moving on...

    EoTechs have a fancy reticle and they seem really high tech which attracts alot of people to the sight, but when put into real situations they just don't make sense. The same goes for the reflex. I wouldn't trust my life to either, and I feel obligated to make people aware of this. Anyone who wants to see what I'm talking about first hand can PM me for a demonstration of both sights. I am an NRA certified patrol rifle instructor, and more importantly I don't buy into the hype. IMHO, don't trust your EoTech to be there for you when you need it most.

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    On a second note, I've made my point, feel free to continue the discussion but I've said what I needed to say and I don't want to turn this into a dick measuring contest. I always run out of tape measure before things can get sorted out anyway :P. I just feel obligated to inform people of my findings in hopes that it might save someone's life. That's all. If you feel EoTech is a better decision for you, then get one. It doesn't matter to me, I don't own a gun store, and I don't profit from the sale of either sight. I just honestly feel (wait I thought women said "feel" and men said "think") that the Aimpoint is a better choice. I've been in gun classes where I've had to give guys batteries for their EoTech that they just pulled out of their rifle case that was dead, while my Aimpoint had been left on since last January, lmao.

    In short... It's all good homie, peace out brah.

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    I find this very interesting because I've been very set on getting an eotech . I'm not a professional and is going on a range and home defense gun. I had chosen to go with the eotech for the large sight picture but the more I hear people that "use" their weapons go with aimloint it makes me wonder. Why did you have to remove your hand 3 times on the eotech in your situation? How would that situation have been didn't with the aimpoint. Also why do you have an eotech mounted if you prefer the aimpoint?

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    I have an EoTech on my duty weapon because thats what was issued and I have no choice.

    You know what, this will be easier to explain in another method. I'm going to shoot a quick video for you later today explaining my thoughts and my reasons. I'll post it up later tonight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwando View Post
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    Aimpoint vs EoTech:

    Sight picture:
    The 4 MOA dot on the Aimpoint vs the 1 MOA dot and 65 MOA ring on the EoTech
    -I found the EoTech easy to acquire, however
    -the large ring on the EoTech took my focus away from the smaller dot and my accuracy suffered. I began shooting center mass vs hitting a shirt button
    -after several runs on various drills and deployments, I found I was faster overall with the Aimpoint and acuracy didn't suffer

    Features:
    2 up/down buttons on EoTech vs single knob on Aimpoint
    -while the EoTech has a 4 or 8 hr battery life Murphy's Law states that a fight will start 8 hrs and 5 minutes after you turn your EoTech on. Pressing the buttons under stress and to adjust the intensity was a PITA.
    -Aimpoint allows you to turn it on and leave it on until 5 years later. I change the battery every year so I have no worries about it not being on. The know is easy to adjust for intensity, under stress and with gloves on, and it's in a location where it is not blocked by a magnifier or rear BUIS.

    I run Aimpoints but if you are only allowed EoTechs, then figure out which one has the batteries you get for free and go with it.

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    EoTechs were cool when they came out, but the world has moved on. Aimpoint beats EoTech in every way except price. They require far less manipulation (particularly the "always on" feature), what manipulation they do require is simpler/faster/more intuitive, and they are FAR more rugged. But don't take some random internet commando's word for it. Call James Yeager or Clint Smith or Southnarc or John Farnam and ask them which ones break more often and by what margin.

    That said, EoTechs do have the price advantage. If that's all you an afford and you don't want to wait, get it. You can always sell it later and get (most of) your money back, or else move it to a practice gun when you're ready to upgrade.

    which one has the batteries you get for free and go with it.
    Yes. Once you make a decision about manufacturer, battery availability ought to play a huge role in deciding which model to go with. The CR123 availability situation is way better now than it was even five years ago, these days they're right next to the register at Walgreens; and if you have a hookup and you already use them for everything else, then sticking with that makes some sense. But AA availability still beats CR123 handily, those are everywhere including kids' toys, remote controls, and the kitchen drawer of every home in the US. To me this is a strong argument for the 512 or CompM4.

    The Aimpoint Micros are neat, but they are likely to be the only thing you own that runs on that particular type of button cell. IMO you have to REALLY be hurting for weight and space on your rails for the tradeoff to make sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IShouldDoThisAllTheTime View Post
    But don't take some random internet commando's word for it. Call James Yeager or Clint Smith or Southnarc or John Farnam and ask them which ones break more often and by what margin.
    I thought you said NOT to listen to internet commandos???

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    Fair enough that you may have a beef with this instructor or that one, but these schools do see thousands of students per year and they do see things break under hard use. That is an invaluable set of data.
    No true Scotsman.

    "When our people become fighters, our leaders will be able to sit at the conference table as equals, not dependent on the whim and the generosity of the oppressors. It will be in the best interests of both sides to negotiate just, honorable, and lasting settlements."
    - Robert Williams, Negroes With Guns, 1962

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