I hear ya Tim. I'm actually putting together a .223 bolt, partly for that reason, partly for critters. So far I have a KRG Whiskey 3 folder, 5 AI mags for it. Probably gonna have Bugholes put together a barreled action for me and run the 75gr amax. I've been talking with a few guys on it, and while it may not be the cats meow at long range, they have a couple they keep in classes and guys are running them to 1K with good results.