Mccain....

[Great-Kazoo]

like or dislike mccain. the stragety rush, hannity and the rest or the "conservative" media has
saying they'd vote for hillary is a shitty one. their attitude/stratagey does nothing for me and turns me as well as other gop voters i know, off. who gives a shit what they think. when romney announced his intent the "christian conservative" all but dismissed his religion as not worthy of their vote. NOW he's a more conservative canidate and their choice???WTF??

there is no one running i'd vote for, yet more than likely i'll still pull the rep nominee in nov

maybe i'll join penn and his ilk ,overseas. NOT

[Marlin]

The truely sad part about this whole thing is, it will boil down to one of two things, Do you want to take the direct path to socialism, (Billery, Obama) Or do You want to take the sceanic route, (Most of the republicans) I have voted R since I turned 18, Right now there isn't one of them that I could support 100%. I will end up voteing the R again, no matter what it's better than the alternative.

I did not mention the third path,(RP) Because He would stick His head in the sand so far, that the country would have no chance of moving forward.

[7idl]

I like none of 'em



but I notice that JM won CA... that tells you how fugged up he is.

[thedave1164]

The Presidential election is set, we will not change the out come, no matter what we lose.

The place where we can still make a difference is in the US Senate, US House and local elections.

I would strongly suggest that everyone at the site here, learn what they can about Bob Shafer, and support him for US Senate. I will be supporting him and Musgrave again.

Maybe work to become a city councilman, mayor, state legislator. There are few running that we can depend on to represent us in a proper fashion, and not sell us out. We will have to make it happen ourselves.

We have not lost the war yet, but we have been set back, and battered.

[Great-Kazoo]

+1 for bob schaffer

[Zundfolge]

I won't vote for the Democrat, but if McCain is the GOP nominee and his running mate isn't any better than him, then I'm just going to either vote 3rd party, or write in Thompson (now if McCain was smart he'd choose Thompson as his VP ... then I'd vote for him because McCain is old ... maybe we'll get lucky and he'll drop dead early in his term and we'll get a President Thompson).

If enough of us wrote in Thompson, maybe (just maybe) the GOP would take the hint.

Otherwise I'm also seriously considering leaving the GOP if McCain is the nominee because its clear the GOP is no longer a party of conservatives.

Of course that also means we've been pushed way over Claire Wolfe's line. (and no, I don't have the balls to start shooting the bastards either )

[Zundfolge]

foxtrot, for years I've echoed that same sentiment ... I said the same thing about conservatives that didn't trust GW (and I believe I've been vindicated there as well).

HOWEVER, I don't believe McCain IS "better" than Hillary or Obama ... his policy choices will be almost identical to either of them (with the possible exception of the war in Iraq). He'll only pick supreme court justices that will preserve his precious McCain-Feingold 1st Amendment Abrogation Law NOT strict constructionalists (in fact I bet they'll be the exact same people that Hillary or Obama would pick). He'll sign pretty much any gun control legislation the dems give him and he'll keep our borders wide open while continuing to squeeze the law abiding American people with more and more regulation.

At least with Hillary or Obama in the whitehouse, Republicans on the hill will be energized and fight against them when they would give McCain a free pass just because he has an (R) after his name (much like they've given Bush a free pass when he did things most republicans don't support).

So in this case, voting 3rd party or writing in someone like Thompson won't be a complete waste because hopefully it will send a message to McCain and the rest of the GOP that we don't want to see the party go any further left.

[Gman]

like or dislike mccain. the stragety rush, hannity and the rest or the "conservative" media has
saying they'd vote for hillary is a shitty one. their attitude/stratagey does nothing for me and turns me as well as other gop voters i know, off.

I don't know about Hannity, but Rush never said he would vote for Hillary. The MSM has distorted his statements. That's a shocker.

Obama, Hillary, and McCain are all getting money from George Soros. That's messed up.

McCain may have been against Kyoto, but he was a sponsor of McCain-Leiberman which will be devestating to our economy in the name of environmentalism.

I'll probably still vote for McCain, even though he won't win. Then I'll probably change my voter registration from 'R' to 'I'. The party has left me. I had to actually look to see who was leading the RNC, and then didn't recognize the Chair or Co-chair. The national RNC leadership is asleep at the switch.

It also appears that we're reaching the tipping point, where more voters are getting something from the government than are paying in. Then we have mob rule. The only thing that I can see that will really make a change is another revolution. Keep your powder dry.

[Delphi]

agreed.... nothing will change until americans change it.

A two party system is a bad system, and that is at the core of all our problems. Anyone who votes D or R is voting against America... (Properly spelled with a capitol A - 7idl)

Been a registered Independant for 2.5 years now

Also concerning mccain, he may say a few things that sound good in a conservatives eyes, but in all honesty how does his track record back that up? To my knowledge he is just BS'ing and lieng, he'll never do half the conservative things he touts.

[robsterclaw]

You'd know what his track record was if you looked it up and stopped parroting things you hear on the radio/TV. McCain to most people is just a "moderate" (thats "bad") and Hillary/Obama are "liberal". How about looking up what positions they take and what history they have before basing your opinon on what other people say?

And again, to the ones that think with a radical leftest will come a "renewal"... who exactly, is going to lead that? Who is going to participate? Your going to be hard pressed to find any volunteers - the only way you can use a gun collection, btw, is if your alive to use it. Your very imaginative if you think that is a possibility in the slightest. Where was the "renewal" for all the past liberal presidents (and firearm bans) we have had? Hate to tell you, but the prospects don't get better with time.

http://www.issues2000.org/2008/John_...un_Control.htm

There you go!

It's been a 2 party system since around the civil war. The 2 party system sucks, but that's what we have to work with and it's sure better then most countries. Lament all you want on how it should be and how people should just vote for their best candidate and then sit back and watch the other side give away your tax money to welfare queens and take away the guns because that's the attitude that gives them the power. In a perfect world, you don't like the republican candidates then you vote for some else and they would listen and put up better candidates in 4 years. Won't happen. They will go the opposite direction and try to go more middle of the road (see more liberal) to try and sneak some votes away from independents who could go either repub or dem.

Oh and it's been 22 years since the full auto ban. How many times has it been attempted to overturn that, and how successful has that been. Reagan signed that piece of shit legislation to appease the gun grabbers. Were they appeased? Did they take their win and let it go?