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    Quote Originally Posted by Rooskibar03 View Post
    I saw it posted somewhere the other day "It's the Bill of Rights, not the bill of needs"
    That's one of the best I've heard in a very long while.

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    Thank you for posting this. I am getting tired of watching people try to make an argument based off of their own beliefs. If you are going to change someones mind in an argument you need to first appeal to something that they believe to be true, or an undeniable fact that they can reference to see your point of view. You have to build a foundation for an argument that will stand on its own that the other person believes to be true. Then from there you add arguments that stand on that base that support your argument. For this case you can use any of the arguments above, and just apply them differently based on the specific person that you are engaging in a debate with. Plan your argument several steps ahead before starting the argument, and always attempt to be the more calm collected individual in the argument. The hot headed screaming ass always loses the fight in the eyes of those that actually matter in the argument.

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    Just wanted to thank you for giving me some additional perspective and info that I can use to rationally discuss this issue with people. As you said, rational people will contemplate the info, irrational/emotional people won't. The emotionals will simply not listen to reason, logic, fact, etc., sadly.

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    OP, this is one of the best posts I've seen on this forum. I am so tired of hearing gun owners make their case after Sandy Hook and sounding A) stupid, B) deranged, C) selfish, and D) all of the above.

    Wayne LaPierre is paid nearly $1 million annually by the NRA and as far as I can tell they'd be better paying that money to you because he came off as a fucking idiot in the aftermath of this and seriously damaged the NRA's brand in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brock Landers View Post
    Wayne LaPierre is paid nearly $1 million annually by the NRA and as far as I can tell they'd be better paying that money to you because he came off as a fucking idiot in the aftermath of this and seriously damaged the NRA's brand in my opinion.
    I'm not a LaPierre fan but no one was going to look good with the entire MSM setting you up. No one.
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    You can also cite stories like this: http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2012/...home-invasion/

    Where 3 rounds per bad guy just kinda seems like asking for trouble. He was in CA, and lived to tell about it which is impressive.

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    The battle that lies ahead is not to be fought with logic but with emotion.
    I see no reason why we shouldn't have some emotion-based arguments in our quiver, however, I think emotional arguments should be the frosting and data-backed arguments should be the cake.

    After all, if you're a parent, Sandy Hook probably hit you right in the emotional gut. There's no reason to suppress that in a debate, especially when debating whether or not a particular law would be effective.
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    If there's nothing wrong with having to show an ID to buy a gun, there's nothing wrong with having to show an ID to vote.

    For legal reasons, that's a joke.

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    Thanks for posting that, Justin. Well written and logical. Will you give permission to copy this and use it on other sites? (With the proper attribution, of course.)
    I'll mature when I'm dead. -Dave Barry

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    very good read and great info... thanks

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    Great stuff Justin. Its been to long friend, we need to meet up for lunch sometime.

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