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Not at all. The barrel and bolt moves back toward your shoulder, inside the body of the weapon. Great CQB design.Originally Posted by Dingo
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Like Tuefulhund said they eliminate most of the buttstock by moving the receiver back to your shoulder.
The Norinco MAK90 is 8 3/4 inches shorter with K-VAR bullpup stock installed.
A Saiga 7.62x39 is 10 inches shorter with a Kushnapup bullpup stock installed.
A Saiga 12 is 9 1/4 inches shorter with a Kushnapup stock installed.
A Mossberg 500 Bullpup is 11 inches shorter than the Mossberg 500 it is based on.
My Ruger 10/22 is 7 1/2 inches shorter than the carbine I started with.
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Compared to a 10.5" SBR...
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The Tavor (24") with a 16" barrel is shorter than the M4 (33" with stock extended for shooting) with a 14.5" barrel.
The point of a bullpup is not to shorten the overall length either... it is to move the weight back closer to your shoulder. When you are not supporting as much moving mass away from your body it is easier to keep it steady and therefore more accurate. Secondly, by keeping the weapon closer to your body and having a smaller overall length you can traverse obstacles and maneuver in tight quarters easier.
Another example is the Kel-Tec RFB (26" with a 18" Barrel) compared with a FN FAL(30" w/ a 17.2" Barrel) or a PTR-91 (40.4" with a 17.7" barrel)
In these examples a bullpup design makes perfect sense. The biggest flaw with most of the bullpup conversion designs is the triggers... or the trigger transfer systems because the trigger/hammer mechanism is so far removed from the actually trigger and they get a lot of creep and movement.
Last edited by Colorado Osprey; 03-19-2013 at 05:46.
I say lets all remove the warning labels and let nature take its course.
Great review. Thanks for posting. Now I really want one. Seems like a great, ergonomic design. The only thing I don't like is the built-in BUIS; they seem a little gimmicky. Since it has a full rail though, that's easily remedied if they don't work out. Really awesome that it'll reliably use the wide variety of grandfathered high-capacity baby-killing assault clips I own.
Spyder, what is that second one you posted?
"America is at that awkward stage: It's too late to work within the system, and too early to shoot the bastards."
-Claire Wolfe
"I got a shotgun, rifle, and a four-wheel drive, and a country boy can survive."
-Hank Williams Jr.
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Merged - 3 for 1
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Does GEN3 Pmag drop free on TAVOR?
They all do I believe the Gen 1's just have an issue with the bolt locking back.
not paying over MSRP if the gun is barely going for $2,500 on gunbroker.
It is an MSBS 5.56 made by Radom
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Very cool! Polish made, for their military. They do intend to eventually market them here (we'll see what the UN has to say about that). Bullpup at 5:20:It is an MSBS 5.56 made by Radom
"America is at that awkward stage: It's too late to work within the system, and too early to shoot the bastards."
-Claire Wolfe
"I got a shotgun, rifle, and a four-wheel drive, and a country boy can survive."
-Hank Williams Jr.
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