Private FTF Gun Sales

[electronman1729]

When a FTF sale happens with a firearm happens is there a sure way to CYA?

I know that there a forms simialer to a 4473 for private sales but do these forms hold any protection for the seller if the buyer does soemthing rash? (This assumes that the buyer signs it)

Also what is the strangest thing someone has offered to trade you for your firearms?

[JM Ver. 2.0]

I've had a first born child and an ex wife offered..... I turned both down.

[ford_muscle1]

I have always just done a simple bill of sale with the weapon info and serial number along with my name and phone number and the buyers name and phone number and address if they want to give it.

I've been offered antique radios for a gun one time thought it was a little strange.

[theGinsue]

Some folks believe that a Bill of Sale (BoS) protects them after selling/buying a firearm via FTF sales. Many others, myself included, do not subscribe to this philosophy. In fact, most folks here will completely shy away from purchasing from anyone requesting a BoS for their item(s). Just more red tape that might bite you in the butt later.

Truth of the matter is that if you really need to feel 100% protected, then you should be going through an FFL and having a 4473 completed.

Most folks here will just request to see the buyers CO drivers license.

Frankly, I limit who I do business with to folks I've had association with for some time - but then again, I have trust issues.

Never done any trades so I can't speak to your other question.

[glock21]

I was offered a autographed obama pic once lol.

[Byte Stryke]

you know I am a gun owner and you want my Name, Address and a photocopy of my DL.
SURE... I mean its not like you are going to steal my identity or rob my house now or anything...

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[Bailey Guns]

I subscribe to the "BoS doesn't mean much" theory. I don't require them when I sell as long as I've got some way to judge who I'm selling to (ie: Feedback Forum, reputation, etc...). When I'm buying I generally shy away from those asking for a BoS but it isn't a deal killer as long as the seller wants nothing more than a name and maybe a phone number. He's not getting a lot of personal info.

I've been offered a lot of beef for trade...steaks, hamburger, etc... Yeah...no.

[BPTactical]

I am a contrare I guess. When I sell an item privately I NEED to see an I.D. for MY BOS.
I don't care what you do with your copy of it but I retain a copy for my benefit, not yours.
You are also going to sign/initial a section on the BOS that states you do not meet any of the criteria of a "Prohibited Person" as defined in 18 USC section 44.
Again, this is for MY benefit, if you go and do something stupid and I end up in court because of it I can prove beyond a reasonable doubt that I took a reasonable means to ensure you were lawfully able to purchase/own said item.
If you balk at either me getting a BOS for my records or showing me I.D your walking away empty handed.

Of course in this day and age it seems we are all criminals for owning a firearm so if something goes south we are guilty anyway.

Years ago I traded a PolyTech for a Shovelhead Harley engine.

[AR_ART]

IMO, a B.O.S. is a way to protect yourself. Nothing in this world is 100% guaranteed. But it will give you something in your corner should something bad happen. I've talked to a couple friends who are attorneys ( yeah I know, I call them friends), and no they aren't criminal attorneys, but they say in general, anything that will CYA yourself is always a plus...

[Great-Kazoo]

IMO, a B.O.S. is a way to protect yourself. Nothing in this world is 100% guaranteed. But it will give you something in your corner should something bad happen. I've talked to a couple friends who are attorneys ( yeah I know, I call them friends), and no they aren't criminal attorneys, but they say in general, anything that will CYA yourself is always a plus...

That's why i save electronic info and you always have their ph number. Cannot get any easier than that. I have yet to see any criminal element here or from other boards. Shady looking characters you bet, criminal, no.