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    Default Alternate means of communications?

    So if something ever did happen in the US and there was an opposing force with boots on the ground whether it be a different country or a civil war the first rule of battle is to cut off communications and supplies.

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    Probably do it the same way as in the past-by mesenger and crypto notes and such.
    Electronic means of communication will be monitored.If you have the knowhow you can get around it somewhat.
    Theres been a lot of hams that were used in disater situations,like the Waldo canyon fire and they have the abillity to still communicate.
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    Ham radio would be the most effective way IMO. Now, if things went south, we wouldn't use our FCC callsigns obviously, but it would allow comms outside of the country as well as inside, data transmissions, etc. It would allow you to be mobile, and harder to find, and with the range of frequencies, fairly hard to jam them all. Only catch is, if you wait till SHTF to figure it all out, no one's going to stop to teach you. Lot easier to get the license, practice using it, and put a plan together for when it goes down, you're not all alone waiting on that Iphone to work.

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    Being a ham, all the specified frequencies would be monitored or jammed. (assuming they could jam a lot of it?) Radios we have typically won't transmit out of "band" so the preset ranges are there for monitoring. Any data communications are simple and unencrypted.

    Same goes for GMRS, FRS and CB. Not sure there is much of a way to not be monitored if they were. Take the risk I guess. If someone fails to respond all of the sudden, I guess you know.

    Not enough of the gun owners are trained in the communication as stated by Streetglideok above^ and there is no time to teach. Some of the Ham stuff is pretty easy to understand, but some is not at all. I'm still the basic level ham, so I can't brag.

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    The problem is there are a LOT of frequencies to jam, which takes a lot of power and jamming equipment, so that's not practical. For this reason, once they take out the cell and internet capability, I suspect it'll just be radio direction finding equipment and targeted strikes against anyone who transmits, either via soldiers, or perhaps via a missile or air strike.

    So I suspect the first thing to go will be the cell phone network and the internet. This'll take out 80% of the general public's communications ability, as a lot of people don't have land lines any more. Next up in priority would be the civilian law enforcement and emergency responders communications, although this will be harder to do. They'd be the closest thing to an armed and trained paramilitary force to be dealt with if you're trying to take over a country, hence the priority. Military frequencies would also be a jamming priority, but are going to be exponentially harder to do, as they are hardened and expect jamming so they frequency hop and use other technological schemes to make them hard to jam. Finally is ham, but there are so few of them relative to the population that they'll be low priority. Most likely they'll be targeted by direction finding equipment as mentioned above. I don't believe CB, FRS, and GMRS will be paid much attention to because they are so short range as compared to the others.

    The POTS (plain old telephone systems) will also be hard to take out, as it's somewhat hardened, and very distributed. You'd have to know exactly which relay stations to take out, and where they are, and take out all of them for a specific area to take down telephone communications to that area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omicron View Post
    The problem is there are a LOT of frequencies to jam, which takes a lot of power and jamming equipment, so that's not practical. For this reason, once they take out the cell and internet capability, I suspect it'll just be radio direction finding equipment and targeted strikes against anyone who transmits, either via soldiers, or perhaps via a missile or air strike.

    So I suspect the first thing to go will be the cell phone network and the internet. This'll take out 80% of the general public's communications ability, as a lot of people don't have land lines any more. Next up in priority would be the civilian law enforcement and emergency responders communications, although this will be harder to do. They'd be the closest thing to an armed and trained paramilitary force to be dealt with if you're trying to take over a country, hence the priority. Military frequencies would also be a jamming priority, but are going to be exponentially harder to do, as they are hardened and expect jamming so they frequency hop and use other technological schemes to make them hard to jam. Finally is ham, but there are so few of them relative to the population that they'll be low priority. Most likely they'll be targeted by direction finding equipment as mentioned above. I don't believe CB, FRS, and GMRS will be paid much attention to because they are so short range as compared to the others.

    The POTS (plain old telephone systems) will also be hard to take out, as it's somewhat hardened, and very distributed. You'd have to know exactly which relay stations to take out, and where they are, and take out all of them for a specific area to take down telephone communications to that area.
    Easiest way for them I think, is they would use drone strikes against any signals they find that are not on their authorized list.

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