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    Default Re: Build Your own Gun Laws : What would YOU do ?

    Damn Damninal, I wish you were giving that address to Congress, that was awesome

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    Nothing.. there is no need for any more gun laws. What we need is enforcement of current laws.

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    As I have always said: You CANNOT legislate morality!

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    I'd make it illegal to do violent stuff with guns.

    Oh, wait...

    Seriously, though, a ban on possession by people convicted of felonies or violent misdemeanors, but they can have their guns back if they've completed all probation/parole/supervised release and kept their nose clean for 5 years beyond that. And for people who have been committed (not the 72-hour evaluation, but the 90-day hold after that) or who have been found not guilty by reason of insanity, of a disqualifying crime. Although IMHO there should be a way to clear that as well, eventually, even if I don't know quite how I'd do it.

    But IMHO most of the other "prohibited person" categories speak to people who are politically disfavored, rather than people who are a public safety problem.

    And keep the present ban on possession by people under the influence. I don't care if someone is a "habitual user" of medicinal dank 99% of the time. I care a great deal whether he's armed while impaired right now.

    Oh, and IMHO property owners should retain absolute authority to decide who does and does not get to be armed on their property.

    And I'd extend MMD to fixed places of employment, and civil immunity to any self-defense case where the defender is not prosecuted for the murder/assault. We already have no duty to retreat in CO, so that at least does not need to be fixed.

    (Needless to say, I'd repeal NFA 1934 in its entirety, and possibly all of GCA 1968. One doesn't belong at all and the other should, IMHO, be a state issue rather than Federal. Certainly, I would not keep the 4473 mandate.)
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    Repeal the 1934 and 1968 Acts and all other forms of registration and regulation. Criminals will always get weapons no reason to prohbit the sale of machine guns via mail.

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    For schools, I like Sheriff Joe's idea of using the posse to staff armed volunteers in every school. The feds can kick in funds, but the sheriffs manage their folks. I would make available bullet proof vests and ccw training available to teachers and staff at their option. At a minimum, teachers and staff would be trained and required to carry tasers.

    For other gun free zones, I would mandate armed guards to protected the unarmed populace. Additionally, I would consider fining media for excessive coverage of mass shooting, so as not to encourage others. Non compliance means they would lose their broadcasting privileges or have their printing presses and web sites shut down. For the excessive law suits I would limit lawyers to 5% of the verdict, because Im tired of hearing about the huge lawsuits where the lawyers win big.

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    Those that act on emotion want outcomes that are not logical and defy human nature. The genie is out of the bottle, there's no going back. It would be easier to make nuclear weapons go away, but we know that won't happen. The problem always comes down to who has the guns/nukes/fill-in-the-blank and their ideology.

    How about enforcing the laws already on the books? That doesn't happen because enforcement doesn't make for the photo-op that the signing of a new law provides. Besides, enforcement takes money and resolve. We seem to have little of both. Those of us that are law-abiding also understand that a new law means nothing to those that don't obey them.

    I keep hearing arguments about how the founders didn't mean semi-automatic AR-15s. Well, when the army was primarily armed with muskets, a number of the citizens owned superior rifles. This continued to when the army was still using single-shot rifles and the citizenry was armed with Henry and Winchester repeating rifles. A semi-automatic AR-15 is the modern musket and is out-gunned by the M4 and M-16 (true "assault weapons"). These same types of argued limitations about what the founders meant 230 years ago don't seem to fall on any of the other Constitutional 'Bill of Rights'. Freedom of the Press couldn't have included the Internet, right? ;-)

    Since people have existed, there have always been crazy people, and it would be safe to assume there always will be. The idea that we should have an expectation of safety in this world is a modern phenomenon and defies nature. We are all responsible for our own safety. Being able to effectively use a firearm is a life skill whether it's used in self-defense, putting meat on the table, or maintaining your freedom.

    Whenever the government gets involved in anything, they make the situation worse. There wasn't a "pre-existing condition" in health insurance until the government got involved in healthcare. The government has created free kill zones in these firearm free areas that survived for generations without making possession of firearms in those areas illegal.

    The road to ruin is paved with good intentions. If most of the people are law-abiding good people, and everyone was armed, wouldn't the good and law-abiding prevail?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Holger Danske View Post
    Additionally, I would consider fining media for excessive coverage of mass shooting, so as not to encourage others. Non compliance means they would lose their broadcasting privileges or have their printing presses and web sites shut down.
    Wow, so the second amendment is okay with you but you would want to destroy the first?

    This country, state or any local government do not need any new laws whatsoever. Violent crimes are already crimes.

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    I would change the sbr and suppressors laws. I would make it so we use our states bc. That would lower prices, don't think it would help stop gun violence, sorry my 2 cents didn't help any its just what I would change.

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    As a father of small children the same age as the victims of the Sandy Hook shooting, I can say this one started me thinking.

    No, I don't believe any additional restrictions on firearms is the answer, but we need to do a much better job of controlling who is in possession of a firearm.

    As such, we need to do a better job of identifying the crazy bastards who are inclined to do a thing like this. Put the crazies back into the assylums where they belong. Period.

    As we all know, it was not a gun which perpetuated this atrocity, but rather one very deranged individual. Lock them up and the rest of us have a lot fewer problems........

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