Interesting tidbit on Rx drugs and this dangerous behavior

[jerrymrc]

I got rid of one and merged the other two.

[Monky]

I got rid of one and merged the other two.

I was really really tempted to start a 4th thread of a different title.. and include a link to the search function.. but I fear my jest would have angered the powers that be.

[Ronin13]

I got rid of one and merged the other two.

You're a wonderful human being!

I was really really tempted to start a 4th thread of a different title.. and include a link to the search function.. but I fear my jest would have angered the powers that be.

I would have gotten a laugh... some may have gotten butthurt, and the mods probably would have chuckled at first.

[Ah Pook]

I was really really tempted to start a 4th thread of a different title.. and include a link to the search function.. but I fear my jest would have angered the powers that be.

I double dog dare ya.

[Clint45]

Antidepressants are WAY overprescribed in America. It is downright criminal that so many schoolchildren . . . especially elementary school children . . . are being prescribed these meds for acting out in normal childlike behaviors. Many times the school recommends these meds to the parents because a child was disruptive, talked out of turn, or doesn't fit in with their peers. Even pre-schoolers and elderly nursing home residents are being prescribed meds to make them "easier to deal with." Traces of these meds have even been found in the tap water of NYC because they are excreted in urine and do not break down after the wastewater treatment process.

The kicker is, doctors do not fully understand how these meds work, and the medication and dosage typically needs to be altered several times on follow up visits to deal with side effects. It is also a well known fact that suddenly going cold turkey and stopping a set medication regimine often results in severe behavior issues, including rage and self destructive impulses.

In Europe and Scandinavia, doctors are appalled by how these medications are used to "treat" so many schoolchildren in the United States.

[CO Hugh]

While the mental health issues need to be addressed be extremely skeptical of this. In tyrannies, such as soviet Russia the state's method to eliminate opposition is to diagnose them as being mentally ill. Then off to the rubber rooms never to be heard from again. Also remember the administration objected to having a court hearing to declare a veteran unable to possess a firearm; instead some bureaucrat will do it.

[brokenscout]

It will be a very bad day when they "try" and take away Vet's guns for no reason..

[68Charger]

IMHO restricting firearms due to a prescription of a "psychotrophic" drug being issued is hilarious. One of the most commonly written psychotrophic drugs issued is Ambien for sleep aid. I don't think I honestly know of a household where someone be it a mom, dad, sister, brother, etc doesn't have someone with a script for ambien. Once they have a foothold there they'll move to the anti psychotics... Which already has a stigma associated with it. When in reality different drugs can serve different purposes. For example there are SEVERAL drugs that are meant at high doses to control multiple personality disorders, but at low doses can control things like anxiety and are issued often to control anxiety. We could also look at other drugs that are meant to control schritzophrenea in high doses but in VERY LOW doses only affect certain receptors so that drug became a great sleep aid. Don't even get me started on off label uses for drugs that have a stigma attached to them. Most drugs that were "developed" for something are actually used to treat something else. Cough VIAGRA originally developed for angina now marketed for boners and a lot of body builders use it for it's vascularity.

They would have EVERYONES firearms within a month.

yeah, I'm going to call BS on that one- they won't have mine, none of those scripts in this house- perhaps if they carried some kind of consequences meant to protect yourselves and society, then people would take them more seriously. There are LOTS of people that don't buy into big Pharma, and don't run to the doctor for every issue... I like sex as a treatment for insomnia, for example.

Mine.
If its stronger than an Excedrin Migraine, you better have a bone sticking out.

I believe that we as a society have become so dependent on the instant gratification promised by psuedo-scientific pharmacies that we have cast ourselves into a chemical dependent state.
Then we wonder why our over medicated children kill themselves and others. We have lost our way as a society, as a people and we have lost our common sense. Everything is me, mine, Now, Immediate relief, instant.
I am not saying its all Pharma's fault, I don't want to wind up like john Noveske. I am saying that we managed to survive for thousands of years without Paxil, Zoloft, Ritalin and all of the other garbage
Following 2 years of sporadic employment, I moved to Georgia, a Job on the other side of the country, on that same day I lost my Father to Agent Orange complications. I could not be there when he was Interred. My Brother was Diagnosed with Hotchkins Lymphoma a few months later.
I mourned, I prayed, I Sought my strength from within as my Father taught me.

I didn't run to a pill.

I haven't killed anything more substantial than a sheet of paper or cardboard.




Return to the earth, she will provide. Seek moderation and balance in all things.

Very well put- if they want to give you a 'script for a psychotropic, then ask a simple question- "what test have you done to determine this will treat the problem?" and if that fails, how about "what test will you do to determine whether it's working correctly, yet the other EFFECTS (some call them side effects) are under control?"

They simply don't have tests for these drugs in either case above, they don't have a scientific method to determine how well they're working, and what else they're doing.

While the mental health issues need to be addressed be extremely skeptical of this. In tyrannies, such as soviet Russia the state's method to eliminate opposition is to diagnose them as being mentally ill. Then off to the rubber rooms never to be heard from again. Also remember the administration objected to having a court hearing to declare a veteran unable to possess a firearm; instead some bureaucrat will do it.

Agreed, which is why I'm on the fence about this suggestion- I think it very well could curb some violent events (or at least the violent murders would be committed with other objects they have easy access to) The problem to me seems to be the whole psychiatric system doesn't have accountability or morals to police themselves- so it's time to police them somehow.

It will be a very bad day when they "try" and take away Vet's guns for no reason..

Why limit this to veterinarians?
Seriously, there are plenty of citizens that will not go quietly into the good night.
(I do see that you were using the context of CO hugh... that has already happened on an individual basis)

While we all appreciate your service, further division isn't what we need...

[Jer]

It will be a very bad day when they "try" and take away Vet's guns for ANY reason..

Edited for accuracy.

[Ashton]

I know there is a large "anti big pharma" movement and I know there are certainly side effects to certain drugs that I think shouldn't have been approved due to the side effects. But the reality is... Drugs are good. The life expectancy in the 60's was what 70's? Now it's in the 90's? ish?