Interesting tidbit on Rx drugs and this dangerous behavior

[Ronin13]

I got rid of one and merged the other two.

You're a wonderful human being!

I was really really tempted to start a 4th thread of a different title.. and include a link to the search function.. but I fear my jest would have angered the powers that be.

I would have gotten a laugh... some may have gotten butthurt, and the mods probably would have chuckled at first.

[BPTactical]

Everyone always rolls their eyes when I say conspiracy or cover up. Numbers don't lie.

Far too many coincidences to be coincidence.

[Ah Pook]

I was really really tempted to start a 4th thread of a different title.. and include a link to the search function.. but I fear my jest would have angered the powers that be.

I double dog dare ya.

[Ronin13]

Far too many coincidences to be coincidence.

What was it my old neighbor, the retired detective said "I can't afford to believe in coincidence."

[68Charger]

How would everyone here feel about expanding the "mental illness" and " illegal drug" clauses to include people prescribed psychotropic drugs, Accepting a prescription would include a home visit to remove any guns... with a 3-6 month waiting period after getting a "clean bill of health" Before they are returned?
I'm sure there would be objections that it would lead to stigma, and many not "getting the help they need"... (In many cases, these drugs a probably not "what they need" anyway)

While I think it may have an effect on these kinds of shootings, it could very easily be abused to violate someone's rights...

The conspiracy theorist in me says big pharma would oppose it for sure...


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[Byte Stryke]

How would everyone here feel about expanding the "mental illness" and " illegal drug" clauses to include people prescribed psychotropic drugs, Accepting a prescription would include a home visit to remove any guns... with a 3-6 month waiting period after getting a "clean bill of health" Before they are returned?
I'm sure there would be objections that it would lead to stigma, and many not "getting the help they need"... (In many cases, these drugs a probably not "what they need" anyway)

While I think it may have an effect on these kinds of shootings, it could very easily be abused to violate someone's rights...

The conspiracy theorist in me says big pharma would oppose it for sure...

Lest the anti's just start writing everyone a 'scrip just to get your guns

[68Charger]

Lest the anti's just start writing everyone a 'scrip just to get your guns

Better word choice, I'll edit the original

[DavieD55]

it could very easily be abused to violate someone's rights...

The conspiracy theorist in me says big pharma would oppose it for sure...

That is exactly what they're after. I wouldn't necessarily call it a conspiracy theory. They want to deny people of their rights through the mental health system. Their goal is to label everyone a nutjob just like the soviets did.

[Ashton]

How would everyone here feel about expanding the "mental illness" and " illegal drug" clauses to include people prescribed psychotropic drugs, Accepting a prescription would include a home visit to remove any guns... with a 3-6 month waiting period after getting a "clean bill of health" Before they are returned?
I'm sure there would be objections that it would lead to stigma, and many not "getting the help they need"... (In many cases, these drugs a probably not "what they need" anyway)

While I think it may have an effect on these kinds of shootings, it could very easily be abused to violate someone's rights...

IMHO restricting firearms due to a prescription of a "psychotrophic" drug being issued is hilarious. One of the most commonly written psychotrophic drugs issued is Ambien for sleep aid. I don't think I honestly know of a household where someone be it a mom, dad, sister, brother, etc doesn't have someone with a script for ambien. Once they have a foothold there they'll move to the anti psychotics... Which already has a stigma associated with it. When in reality different drugs can serve different purposes. For example there are SEVERAL drugs that are meant at high doses to control multiple personality disorders, but at low doses can control things like anxiety and are issued often to control anxiety. We could also look at other drugs that are meant to control schritzophrenea in high doses but in VERY LOW doses only affect certain receptors so that drug became a great sleep aid. Don't even get me started on off label uses for drugs that have a stigma attached to them. Most drugs that were "developed" for something are actually used to treat something else. Cough VIAGRA originally developed for angina now marketed for boners and a lot of body builders use it for it's vascularity.

They would have EVERYONES firearms within a month.

[Byte Stryke]

IMHO restricting firearms due to a prescription of a "psychotrophic" drug being issued is hilarious. One of the most commonly written psychotropic drugs issued is Ambien for sleep aid. I don't think I honestly know of a household where someone be it a mom, dad, sister, brother, etc doesn't have someone with a script for ambien. Once they have a foothold there they'll move to the anti psychotics... Which already has a stigma associated with it. When in reality different drugs can serve different purposes. For example there are SEVERAL drugs that are meant at high doses to control multiple personality disorders, but at low doses can control things like anxiety and are issued often to control anxiety. We could also look at other drugs that are meant to control schizophrenia in high doses but in VERY LOW doses only affect certain receptors so that drug became a great sleep aid. Don't even get me started on off label uses for drugs that have a stigma attached to them. Most drugs that were "developed" for something are actually used to treat something else. Cough VIAGRA originally developed for angina now marketed for boners and a lot of body builders use it for it's vascularity.

Mine.
If its stronger than an Excedrin Migraine, you better have a bone sticking out.

I believe that we as a society have become so dependent on the instant gratification promised by psuedo-scientific pharmacies that we have cast ourselves into a chemical dependent state.
Then we wonder why our over medicated children kill themselves and others. We have lost our way as a society, as a people and we have lost our common sense. Everything is me, mine, Now, Immediate relief, instant.
I am not saying its all Pharma's fault, I don't want to wind up like john Noveske. I am saying that we managed to survive for thousands of years without Paxil, Zoloft, Ritalin and all of the other garbage
Following 2 years of sporadic employment, I moved to Georgia, a Job on the other side of the country, on that same day I lost my Father to Agent Orange complications. I could not be there when he was Interred. My Brother was Diagnosed with Hotchkins Lymphoma a few months later.
I mourned, I prayed, I Sought my strength from within as my Father taught me.

I didn't run to a pill.

I haven't killed anything more substantial than a sheet of paper or cardboard.




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