This Just In: Feinstein includes handguns in to-be-proposed Assault Weapons Legislation

[Gunner]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDgl...e_gdata_player

[Bailey Guns]

Unfortunately, with lickenpooper in the gov's mansion, and a blue house and senate, CO AW ban is essentially a foregone conclusion. If we're safe at the federal level (at least until the 2014 midterms), but fucked in Colorful Colorado, does that mean we all STFU and take one for the team, as it were?

Yeah, well...we're talking about a federal ban here.

[SuperiorDG]

[QUOTE=Gunner;817157]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDgl...e_gdata_player

Beat me to it. Good Video.

[SuperiorDG]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDgl...e_gdata_player

Just sent this along using the link in the commits of the video.

Dear Representative,

This is my first time in 45 years of life that I have written one of my Representatives. I have always had faith in our system of government that my one vote was enough to keep my 3 children and family safe and with a future. As an American and business owner I believe that we vote/hire our representative/employees to do a job using FACTS, LOGIC and EXPERIENCE and set them free do that job to the best of their ability. We may sometimes give them advice based on our experiences, but for the most part we have faith in their ability to make the right decisions.
What has motivated me to write for the first time is that I believe that this great county is about step, no jump, away from one of our guiding principles, the right to defined one’s life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. The FACTS show that we are, as a whole, safer if we have the ability and means to protect ourselves. LOGIC even shows this to be so. And EXPERIENCE shows that removing guns from law abiding citizens and unreasonable gun bans does not make society safer.
I lived in the Columbine neighborhood in 1999 and remember watching from my front porch children and parents embracing each other for the first time that horrible day. I will never forget. I was sent back to those emotions of that day with the recent events. I feel it is even more important today to protect our children then it has ever been.
EXPERIENCE shows me two of many things to be true about us, evil will always be a part of our society and that we are very resourceful. The proposed gun bans will not change this about us. If the guns are not there evil with be resourceful. And in fact it will be easier for evil to prevail because the innocent will be defenseless. If your goal is to protect the greatest number of people then do not take away our ability to protect ourselves.
Please for my family do not disarm us with the legation soon to be before you.
Respectfully,

[DOC]

I think this law has to much take.

[mosinnagant577]

I agree with gunner

[CO-SpAr72]

Anyone have a firm time tablefor when this legislation might pass? Im assuming a ban on private party sales will be included in the new laws?

[Ghosty]

SurvivalBlog's view that these have no traction and why:

http://www.survivalblog.com/2013/01/...t-fantasy.html

I often have SurvivalBlog readers forward me alarmist e-mails, warning of "total disarmament" of the civilian populace. While there indeed may be plans or schemes to disarm Americans, I don't consider these threats credible. Let me explain why: I would conservatively estimate that there are about 316 million firearms in private hands in the United States. Of these, less than 10% are logged in any formal registry. Perhaps another 30% have Form 4473s filed with the FFL dealers where they were first purchased, but that is a fractured mishmash of records with a quite perishable life span. It is notable that we live in a very mobile society, where most families move every three or four years. And in most states, there are no record keeping requirements for secondary sales of firearms. So to call the accumulation of 4473 forms a de facto registration system is laughable.

A Congressional Research Service report provides these details:

The National Institute of Justice (NIJ) reported in a national survey that in 1994, 44 million people, approximately 35% of households, owned 192 million firearms, 65 million of which were handguns. Seventy-four percent of those individuals were reported to own more than one firearm. According to the ATF, by the end of 1996 approximately 242 million firearms were available for sale to or were possessed by civilians in the United States. That total includes roughly 72 million handguns (mostly pistols, revolvers, and derringers), 76 million rifles, and 64 million shotguns. By 2000, the number of firearms had increased to approximately 259 million: 92 million handguns, 92 million rifles, and 75 million shotguns. By 2007, the number of firearms had increased to approximately 294 million: 106 million handguns, 105 million rifles, and 83 million shotguns.
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[Clint45]

They know confiscation would never work. They know 90% of gun owners will not FULLY comply with mandatory registration. That is what they want. If possession of an unregistered handgun or assault rifle = AUTOMATIC GUILT, then they have successfully criminalized most gun owners who, as of today, have committed no crime. If unregistered = contraband, and all unrecorded transfers are felonious, that is just something they can use at any time against anyone. They intend to make gun owners fear their government and suspect their friends and neighbors. That way, they can label casual groups of shooting enthusiasts "subversives" . . . after all, they are clearly paranoid and were discovered with unregistered firearms.

Next step is a national FOID card required to purchase ammunition, with every transaction recorded. Forget reloading . . . powder will be reclassified as "explosives" . . . anyone remember the "taggant" debacle? Their ultimate goal is to criminalize gun ownership, incrementally.

It looks like this bill will pass with minimal concessions. No more hi-cap mags, all private party sales need to go through a FFL, any grandfathered ARs need to be registered, any handguns need to be registered . . . noncompliance will be prosecuted as a federal felony with zero tolerance and mandatory minimums. But they are not talking about penalties or non-sale transfers (gift/trade/inheritance) at all. They want to sneak those provisions into their 100+ pages of small print. It is insidious. I am expecting the worst. After all, Obama is having Biden and Bloomberg draft the new legislation.

[hollohas]

They know confiscation would never work. They know 90% of gun owners will not FULLY comply with mandatory registration. That is what they want. If possession of an unregistered handgun or assault rifle = AUTOMATIC GUILT, then they have successfully criminalized most gun owners who, as of today, have committed no crime. If unregistered = contraband, and all unrecorded transfers are felonious, that is just something they can use at any time against anyone. They intend to make gun owners fear their government and suspect their friends and neighbors. That way, they can label casual groups of shooting enthusiasts "subversives" . . . after all, they are clearly paranoid and were discovered with unregistered firearms.

^ This is exactly what I'm worried about. The banners are smarter than we give them credit for. I know MANY gun owners who tell me "black rifles" and standard capacity mags should be banned. And they find the idea of registration perfectly acceptable. There maybe so many tens-of-millions of gun owners in America...We just don't have the entirety of gun owning America on our side. We are the minority on this one folks...