Obama want gun violene meaures passed in 2013

[Kraven251]

Well if he passes it, I think we can be pretty sure from the historical record that it will be a "Gun Violence Measure" just not the kind he envisioned.

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Well if he passes it, I think we can be pretty sure from the historical record that it will be a "Gun Violence Measure" just not the kind he envisioned.

You mean if congress passes it........right?

Sorry, I'm sure you are not one of them, nor are most here...

but I get tired of reading everywhere else, people thinking the President is responsible for everything. The corruption runs DEEP and spread throughout all three branches. Everything we are watching unfold is not the doing of one man, it is the doing of a group that was able to get representatives at the highest levels to circumvent our system, hell bent on destruction of our way of life.

[Fmedges]

You mean if congress passes it........right?

Sorry, I'm sure you are not one of them, nor are most here...

but I get tired of reading everywhere else, people thinking the President is responsible for everything. The corruption runs DEEP and spread throughout all three branches. Everything we are watching unfold is not the doing of one man, it is the doing of a group that was able to get representatives at the highest levels to circumvent our system, hell bent on destruction of our way of life.

Its called the executive branch for a reason.

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Its called the executive branch for a reason.

Yes, because it is the Administrative branch of the government. It operates, implements and enforces all the laws created by the legislative branch, and as interpreted every once in awhile by the judiciary.

However, currently the executive branch holds considerably more power, since Obama has added to its portfolio, and is continually allowed to circumvent the system.

This is because congress allows it......and a complacent population.

[Fmedges]

Yes, because it is the Administrative branch of the government. It operates, implements and enforces all the laws created by the legislative branch, and as interpreted every once in awhile by the judiciary.

However, currently the executive branch holds considerably more power, since Obama has added to its portfolio, and is continually allowed to circumvent the system.

This is because congress allows it......and a complacent population.

I agree with you. The whole thing is a fucking mess but the guy at the top isn't exactly unfucking it. That and due to the fact that we live in a society where people would rather be told what to think instead if making their own opinions means the country is on it's way down.

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I agree with you. The whole thing is a fucking mess but the guy at the top isn't exactly unfucking it. That and due to the fact that we live in a society where people would rather be told what to think instead if making their own opinions means the country is on it's way down.

Agreed 100%, and trust me, I'm not sticking up for Barry, not in the least bit. I think he is the biggest piece of shit of them all, but we have many others like him to look at as well when its time to clean house brother.

[Kraven251]

You mean if congress passes it........right?

Sorry, I'm sure you are not one of them, nor are most here...

but I get tired of reading everywhere else, people thinking the President is responsible for everything. The corruption runs DEEP and spread throughout all three branches. Everything we are watching unfold is not the doing of one man, it is the doing of a group that was able to get representatives at the highest levels to circumvent our system, hell bent on destruction of our way of life.

I should have said "signs" it.