Feinstein: I wanna ban'em Turn'em all in Mr and Mrs America

[GlockDog47]

The pigs are in the farmhouse. "All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others."

Wow. Guess you admire Hitler too: he didn't talk out of both sides of his mouth, wrote his plans up in a book called Mein Kampf before he came to power. How about Stalin? Mao? Admire their conviction too?

Lmfao........ well said

[Atrain1]

Email I got from the NRA about what she wants to do I am sure I am not the first to post this.

Feinstein Goes For Broke With New Gun-Ban Bill

Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.)—author of the federal “assault weapon” and “large” ammunition magazine ban of 1994-2004—has announced that on the first day of the new Congress—January 3^rd— she will introduce a bill to which her 1994 ban will pale by comparison. On Dec. 17^th, Feinstein said, “I have been working with my staff for over a year on this legislation” and “It will be carefully focused.” Indicating the depth of her research on the issue, she said on Dec. 21^st that she had personally looked at pictures of guns in 1993, and again in 2012.
According to a Dec. 27^th posting on Sen. Feinstein’s website and a draft of the bill obtained by NRA-ILA, the new ban would, among other things, adopt new definitions of “assault weapon” that would affect a much larger variety of firearms, require current owners of such firearms to register them with the federal government under the National Firearms Act, and require forfeiture of the firearms upon the deaths of their current owners. Some of the changes in Feinstein’s new bill are as follows:
·Reduces, from two to one, the number of permitted external features on various firearms. The 1994 ban permitted various firearms to be manufactured only if they were assembled with no more than one feature listed in the law. Feinstein’s new bill would prohibit the manufacture of the same firearms with even one of the features.
·Adopts new lists of prohibited external features. For example, whereas the 1994 ban applied to a rifle or shotgun the “pistol grip” of which “protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon,” the new bill would drastically expand the definition to include any “grip . . . or any other characteristic that can function as a grip.” Also, the new bill adds “forward grip” to the list of prohibiting features for rifles, defining it as “a grip located forward of the trigger that functions as a pistol grip.” Read literally and in conjunction with the reduction from two features to one, the new language would apply to every detachable-magazine semi-automatic rifle. At a minimum, it would, for example, ban all models of the AR-15, even those developed for compliance with California’s highly restrictive ban.

·Carries hyperbole further than the 1994 ban. Feinstein’s 1994 ban listed “grenade launcher” as one of the prohibiting features for rifles. Her 2013 bill carries goes even further into the ridiculous, by also listing “rocket launcher.” Such devices are restricted under the National Firearms Act and, obviously, are not standard components of the firearms Feinstein wants to ban. Perhaps a subsequent Feinstein bill will add “nuclear bomb,” “particle beam weapon,” or something else equally far-fetched to the features list.


·Expands the definition of “assault weapon” by including:

·Three very popular rifles: The M1 Carbine (introduced in 1944 and for many years sold by the federal government to individuals involved in marksmanship competition), a model of the Ruger Mini-14, and most or all models of the SKS.

·Any “semiautomatic, centerfire, or rimfire rifle that has a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds,” except for tubular-magazine .22s.

·Any “semiautomatic, centerfire, or rimfire rifle that has an overall length of less than 30 inches,” any “semiautomatic handgun with a fixed magazine that has the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds,” and any semi-automatic handgun that has a threaded barrel.
·Requires owners of existing “assault weapons” to register them with the federal government under the National Firearms Act (NFA). The NFA imposes a $200 tax per firearm, and requires an owner to submit photographs and fingerprints to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATFE), to inform the BATFE of the address where the firearm will be kept, and to obtain the BATFE’s permission to transport the firearm across state lines.

·Prohibits the transfer of “assault weapons.” Owners of other firearms, including those covered by the NFA, are permitted to sell them or pass them to heirs. However, under Feinstein’s new bill, “assault weapons” would remain with their current owners until their deaths, at which point they would be forfeited to the government.

·Prohibits the domestic manufacture and the importation of magazines that hold more than 10 rounds of ammunition. The 1994 ban allowed the importation of such magazines that were manufactured before the ban took effect. Whereas the 1994 ban protected gun owners from errant prosecution by making the government prove when a magazine was made, the new ban includes no such protection. The new ban also requires firearm dealers to certify the date of manufacture of any >10-round magazine sold, a virtually impossible task, given that virtually no magazines are stamped with their date of manufacture.

·Targets handguns in defiance of the Supreme Court. The Court ruled in District of Columbia v. Heller that the Second Amendment protects the right to have handguns for self-defense, in large part on the basis of the fact handguns are the type of firearm “overwhelmingly chosen by American society for that lawful purpose.” Semi-automatic pistols, which are the most popular handguns today, are designed to use detachable magazines, and the magazines “overwhelmingly chosen” by Americans for self-defense are those that hold more than 10 rounds. Additionally, Feinstein’s list of nearly 1,000 firearms exempted by name (see next paragraph) contains not a single handgun. Sen. Feinstein advocated banning handguns before being elected to the Senate, though she carried a handgun for her own personal protection.
·Contains a larger piece of window dressing than the 1994 ban. Whereas the 1994 ban included a list of approximately 600 rifles and shotguns exempted from the ban by name, the new bill’s list is increased to nearly 1,000 rifles and shotguns. Other than for the 11 detachable-magazine semi-automatic rifles and one other semi-automatic rifle included in the list, however, the list appears to be pointless, because a separate provision of the bill exempts “any firearm that is manually operated by bolt, pump, lever, or slide action.”


The Department of Justice study. On her website, Feinstein claims that a study for the DOJ found that the 1994 ban resulted in a 6.7 percent decrease in murders. To the contrary, this is what the study said: “At best, the assault weapons ban can have only a limited effect on total gun murders, because the banned weapons and magazines were never involved in more than a modest fraction of all gun murders. Our best estimate is that the ban contributed to a 6.7 percent decrease in total gun murders between 1994 and 1995. . . . However, with only one year of post-ban data, we cannot rule out the possibility that this decrease reflects chance year-to-year variation rather than a true effect of the ban. Nor can we rule out effects of other features of the 1994 Crime Act or a host of state and local initiatives that took place simultaneously.”

“Assault weapon” numbers and murder trends. From the imposition of Feinstein’s “assault weapon” ban (Sept. 13, 1994) through the present, the number of “assault weapons” has risen dramatically. For example, the most common firearm that Feinstein considers an “assault weapon” is the AR-15 rifle, the manufacturing numbers of which can be gleaned from the BATFE’s firearm manufacturer reports, available here. From 1995 through 2011, the number of AR-15s—all models of which Feinstein’s new bill defines as “assault weapons”—rose by over 2.5 million. During the same period, the nation’s murder rate fell 48 percent, to a 48-year low. According to the FBI, 8.5 times as many people are murdered with knives, blunt objects and bare hands, as with rifles of any type.



Traces: Feinstein makes several claims, premised on firearm traces, hoping to convince people that her 1994 ban reduced the (relatively infrequent) use of “assault weapons” in crime. However, traces do not indicate how often any type of gun is used in crime. As the Congressional Research Service and the BATFE have explained, not all firearms that are traced have been used in crime, and not all firearms used in crime are traced. Whether a trace occurs depends on whether a law enforcement agency requests that a trace be conducted. Given that existing “assault weapons” were exempted from the 1994 ban and new “assault weapons” continued to be made while the ban was in effect, any reduction in the percentage of traces accounted for by “assault weapons” during the ban, would be attributable to law enforcement agencies losing interest in tracing the firearms, or law enforcement agencies increasing their requests for traces on other types of firearms, as urged by the BATFE for more than a decade.

Call Your U.S. Senators and Representative: As noted, Feinstein intends to introduce her bill on January 3^rd. President Obama has said that gun control will be a “central issue” of his final term in office, and he has vowed to move quickly on it.

Contact your members of Congress at 202-224-3121 to urge them to oppose Sen. Feinstein’s 2013 gun and magazine ban. Our elected representatives in Congress must here from you if we are going to defeat this gun ban proposal. You can write your Representatives and Senators by using our Write Your Representatives tool here: http://www.nraila.org/get-involved-locally/grassroots/write-your-reps.aspx

[Atrain1]

Email about Colorado from NRA. Priority for the 2013 SessionGovernor John Hickenlooper, a former member of a national anti-gun group called Mayors Against Illegal Guns (MAIG) founded and funded by New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, was just recently joined by thirteen mayors in Colorado to coordinate with President Obama to help pass gun control measures here in Colorado and nationally.
Governor Hickenlooper has also gone on the offensive when it comes to gun control by making statements just this past week that the “time is right” to consider stripping away your gun rights this next session.
Earlier this year in an ABC interview, just after the terrible tragedy in Aurora, Governor Hickenlooper was skeptical that tougher gun laws would have prevented such a disaster. He stated, in part:

“This wasn’t a Colorado problem [referring to Colorado gun laws]… He [James Holmes] would have found explosives. He would have found something else. Some sort of poisonous gas. He would have done something to create this horror.”
Governor Hickenlooper’s statement on ABC was heartfelt and realistic in its approach, which was appreciated by not only those suffering families in Colorado but by families across this country. This is the same heartfelt and realistic approach that the NRA has always and continues to take in the days since the tragedy in Aurora and more recently in Newtown, Connecticut.
As we know all too well, there are those in Colorado and across the country who do not support the Second Amendment the way you and I do. They choose to take an impulsive approach to these situations that could end up harming more law-abiding citizens in the process.
Those anti-gun extremists are looking to Colorado as a "guinea pig" to push through ineffective and illogical gun control laws at the state level; those that have proven to be failures in other states, and solely affecting and punishing law-abiding citizens.

There has already been serious discussion by some Democrats in the Colorado General Assembly to ban commonly-owned semi-automatic rifles, ban “high capacity magazines,” ban online sales of ammunition, restrict private sales and reverse the state Supreme Court ruling on Campus Carry. These misguided views are an affront to our constitutional rights as law-abiding citizens.
The battle to protect our gun rights that lies before us in this next legislative session in is one unlike we have ever seen. As gun owners, sportsmen and supporters of the Second Amendment, we urge you to contact Governor John Hickenlooper and your state legislators to respectfully express your opposition to restrictions to your lawful gun rights.
Governor John Hickenlooper can be reached by e-mail or telephone at (303) 866-2471. Contact information for your state legislators can be found here

[JoeT]

Wow. Guess you admire Hitler too: he didn't talk out of both sides of his mouth, wrote his plans up in a book called Mein Kampf before he came to power. How about Stalin? Mao? Admire their conviction too?

ok, "admire" wasn't the best choice of words....

[BigDee]

If you want to know what Colorado will be like in 10 years look at California.

The direction this state is going saddens me greatly. I chose to live here because I hate what California has become and want no part of the politics there despite having grown up there and having to leave behind a lot of friends and a lot of family. Now all the idiots coming here from California are voting exactly the same way they voted in California that took the state to where it is today and doing the same exact thing here. When Democrat officials started sweeping the elections here I knew the time would be coming to leave.

If the state does in fact pass gun control measures on its own I will know the time has come for me to leave. Hopefully there are enough natives here with half a brain to see what is coming and vote these idiots out of office but I fear the liberal illness has overtaken to many here.

Welcome to California Part 2.


On the Feinstein subject, Feinstein has hated guns and wanted them off the streets ever since her finger entered a bullet hole in Harvey Milks head. She was a witness to his and the Mayor of San Fran's executions and has been on a tirade for the complete disarmament of private citizens ever since.

[sroz]

Hickenlooper & Feinstein.....what a team.

[waxthis]

[brutal]

After landing here in 1992, I always said I would never leave. I will fight the good fight, but a negative change in gun law in Colorado will drive me and my spend elsewhere. I can live anywhere one hour from a metro airport, so life is full of choices if needed.

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[ANADRILL]

I actually admire her a bit. She doesn't talk out of both sides of her mouth and you know where she stands. I wish more politicians were as upfront

I don't agree with her stand, but admire her conviction

Livin a bit close too boulder can cause this sort of thinking....

[dwalker460]

She should be tarred and feathered and tried as a traitor for direct violation of her oath of office.

Traitors are shot or hanged...