Let's not start the union bashing.... :rolleyes
I was a firefighter outside of chicago before moving here and I made nearly 90k without overtime. Property taxes on a 250k (3b2b 1500sq ft) house was also nearly $8,000 and sales tax is the highest in the country (11% I believe). My wife and I were definitely "middle class". Cost of living is a LOT cheaper out here. I make half of what I did back there and we live a lot more comfortably in a much bigger house. I believe NJ has the same property taxes.
Originally Posted by funkymonkey1111
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unions are a wonderful thing to extort $$ from the citizenry
Agreed our daugher had / still has the opportunity to work NYPD for some ungodly sum.
HOWEVER as posted above. Take the starting salary with increases over the years. Include the average median priced home (in even a shitty area) starts @ $300K EASY factor in TAXES [ Long island for ex] average yearly home owners starts @ $8-12K once again in a less than perfect area. Vehicle ins, food cost Forget about riding the train. Which is about the only perk LE receives (they ride for free) everyone else that's another $250 mthly.
Cheap place to dine out other than the Clown's golden arches dinner for 2 $75 NOT INCL Tax, Alcohol, Gratuity .
Hell due to the density of housing the only place to build is UP. The kids live at home because a 2 bd 1 bath dinette apt over some levitt home starts @ $2K. My nephew purchased a foreclosure for $325K ! ! ! ! That is one which needed major renovation before occupying. Now he has foundation and starting over due to hurricane Sandy.
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It's not a union thing, many of the metro area rank and file officers around here are making some six figure salaries not because of unions but because they work some serious amount of overtime. I would not fault someone for making the effort to want to earn extra money for themselves and their families. However the intent of me posting this article was to enlighten others of what may be coming regarding our currently legal firearms, and that down the road we may be made into villians like this person was. Most of us members are up standing citizens, and I am sure down the road we don't want to be made in to villians. We got to stand up and address this blatant attacks on the 2nd and turn it around. I own firearms because I can. I also own them to protect myself and my family. Some of us have spent some time in countries where rights such as firearm ownership and to speak your mind are not part of the culture. Thats part of the reason we were there. It scares the hell out of me when our society wants to ban those rights, for it makes me believe we could end up like one of those countries I mentioned where the government oppresses and is not held in check by the balance of its people.
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