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Uh. You probably have walked into walls harder then that old guy could hit you. He has to use a walker and can't support himself. If some guy tried to take something away from me I'd argue that's theft and I have the right to defend my property.Originally Posted by Ronin13
Chalk up another one for the police. It is cases like this where the actions of 1 officer (and a reserve officer at that) doing something stupid that will give the whole department a bad name. Being Denver, I'm surprised the old guy didn't get a magazine full of lead. Suppose he should be thankful for that. Regardless, this is why people get ill feelings towards LE.
The character of a man can be judged by how he treats those who can do nothing for him
I have to laugh, when my grandmother was alive in a nursing home. I got a call at work and apparently she stabbed an elderly woman in the hand with a fork, for taking food off her plate.
It said he was in plain clothes.
Red,White & Blue means Freedom, until its flashing behind you.
For an expired handicapped placard , Really
Red,White & Blue means Freedom, until its flashing behind you.
This isn't about cop bashing, it's about misuse of authority. It could, and should, have been handled right then and right there on the spot. Making a "raid" in the middle of the night to arrest a dangerous geezer out of his bed is just not justified in this case. He whacked the guy once, he didn't "assault" him or beat him senseless. There was no need for the officer to push the issue as far as he did, he should have identified himself, said "look, your placard's expired so you need to park in a regular spot, or you'll get a ticket for prking in the handicapped space illegally".
The old guy wasn't driving, he was a passenger. The driver could have dropped him at the door, even escorted him inside to an electric shopping cart or whatever, then parked the car. Yes, the officer had the right and authority to confiscate the expired placard, we all know they're no good when they're expired.
So using the parking space was wrong, but using force against the old man was even more wrong, and making an arrest raid on him in the middle of the night was over the edge wrong. This did not warrant police state tactics, IMHO.
Cops need to work with citizens as much as possible, not have the "lord and master" attitude over them. Many cops seem to be just fine with the "Andy Griffith approach", and there seems to be too many with the "Barney Fife approach".
Glad it wasn't in Boulder during elk season
Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to Fight, he'll just kill you.
Should have been a uniformed patrol officer handling this...this guy is an "at risk adult" under the law. Old man should not have hit the guy with his cane! But on the other hand, should the "officer" have confiscated his placard? I wonder what Denver Police Department Policy is on this? Is it published? Feel free to enlighten me!
"Police may confiscate a placard if they believe it is being used illegally. Police officers have clear authority to enforce parkinglaws on private property, such as at a mall or grocery store."
Source:
http://jeffco.us/jeffco/mv_uploads/P...sabilities.pdf
CRS
18-6.5-102. Definitions
As used in this article, unless the context otherwise requires:
(1) "At-risk adult" means any person who is sixty years of age or older or any person who is eighteen years of age or older and is a person with a disability as said term is defined in subsection (3) of this section.
(1.5) "At-risk juvenile" means any person who is under the age of eighteen years and is a person with a disability as said term is defined in subsection (3) of this section.
(1.7) "Convicted" and "conviction" mean a plea of guilty accepted by the court, including a plea of guilty entered pursuant to a deferred sentence under section 18-1.3-102, a verdict of guilty by a judge or jury, or a plea of no contest accepted by the court.
(1.8) "Crime against an at-risk adult or at-risk juvenile" means any offense listed in section 18-6.5-103 or criminal attempt, conspiracy, or solicitation to commit any of those offenses.
(2) "Neglect" has the same meaning as set forth in section 26-3.1-101 (4) (b), C.R.S.
(3) "Person with a disability" means any person who:
(a) Is impaired because of the loss of or permanent loss of use of a hand or foot or because of blindness or the permanent impairment of vision of both eyes to such a degree as to constitute virtual blindness; or
(b) Is unable to walk, see, hear, or speak; or
(c) Is unable to breathe without mechanical assistance; or
(d) Is developmentally disabled as defined in section 27-10.5-102 (11), C.R.S.; or
(e) Is a person with a mental illness as the term is defined in section 27-65-102 (14), C.R.S.; or
(f) Is mentally impaired as the term is defined in section 24-34-301 (2.5) (b) (III), C.R.S.; or
(g) Is blind as that term is defined in section 26-2-103 (3), C.R.S.; or
(h) Is receiving care and treatment for a developmental disability under article 10.5 of title 27, C.R.S.
(3.5) "Position of trust" means assuming a responsibility, duty, or fiduciary relationship toward an at-risk adult or at-risk juvenile.
(4) Any subsection, or portion of a subsection, of this section declared to be unconstitutional or otherwise invalid shall not impair the remaining provisions of this section.
+1. Abuse of authority and mishandled situations aside, can we not just exercise a little common sense and courtesy anymore? For christ's sake, it's a senior citizen with a cane - he's not allowed to park a little closer to the building because his permit is out of date? I'm sure the 30-something with a valid permit, issued simply because her ass is too fucking fat to walk, who parked there after him is just fine though.
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-Claire Wolfe
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My landlord is 80 years old with a heart condition. 2 years ago an off duty DPD almost beat the shit out of him because he had the audacity to beep his horn when the off duty officer blocked him into a parking space. First, he badged him and asked if he had a firearm in his truck . . . after being told no, he was screamed at, threatened, and the off duty cop refused to let him out of the parking space. He called a patrol car to run my landlord for warrants and wants and issue him some BS ticket for improper use of the horn or something like that. The uniformed cop completely ignored my landlord and was joking around with the off duty officer for about 15 minutes and asking him how his vacation was. Personally, I think DPD needs random piss tests for steroids and other illicit substances. Everyone in Capitol Hill is more scared of the DPD than the bad guys, which is why so many crimes go unreported.
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