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    Default Some Thoughts on Giving up on the Constitution

    Just watched this interview. Some though provoking ideas. Does the Supreme Court only pretend to follow the Constitution in their rulings? And many more.

    http://video.foxnews.com/v/2073272734001/

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    I caught the end of an interview with him about this on NPR yesterday. I'm glad I didn't call in, because it turns out that I actually agree with what he is saying. Just in a slightly different way.

    The Constitution does not grant any right, it merely highlights rights. It states right in the preamble that the Constitution is not a comprehensive list of rights, and is only highlighting important ones. If 99% of America decided to abolish the Constitution tomorrow, my rights, and my willingness to defend them, would not change one bit. The Constitution only serves as a focus to the issue of rights.

    There is a much larger conversation about establishing documents in order to enable lawful actions like court cases, and to get public opinion at least in the same arena of thought, but I'm not sure this is the thread to discuss that part.
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    Unfortunately, the Constitution is the only thing keeping us from being forced to defend our rights with high speed lead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kraven251 View Post
    Unfortunately, the Constitution is the only thing keeping us from being forced to defend our rights with high speed lead.
    that made me laugh. most of them don't give a shit about the constitution
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    Quote Originally Posted by sniper7 View Post
    that made me laugh. most of them don't give a shit about the constitution
    No, but people like us do, and they fear us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    The Constitution does not grant any right, it merely highlights rights. It states right in the preamble that the Constitution is not a comprehensive list of rights, and is only highlighting important ones. If 99% of America decided to abolish the Constitution tomorrow, my rights, and my willingness to defend them, would not change one bit. The Constitution only serves as a focus to the issue of rights.

    There is a much larger conversation about establishing documents in order to enable lawful actions like court cases, and to get public opinion at least in the same arena of thought, but I'm not sure this is the thread to discuss that part.
    You and I butted heads about this months ago, but I've come around a bit. Does the BOR/Const grant you the right to breath in writing? Of course not, but you have that right.

    Of course the absence of a denial of a right does not grant it either. This is where stuff gets real sticky. Gay marriage, abortion, "high capacity" mags, etc. Tough issues for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NMB2 View Post
    No, but people like us do, and they fear us.
    ....good

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    The Constitution defines the responsibilities and limits of the federal government. It doesn't limit the people who empower the government to even exist.

    ...then there's what we have now, which is an abomination of what the founders envisioned.
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