Quote Originally Posted by wreave View Post
Okay. Seriously. I've never been there - have been invited a few times for events and the timing has never worked. However, when liberals are talking about gun control to reduce crime, and conservatives are always talking about being tough on crime, how do places like this fit it? We all know the bars downtown require significant police presence, and there are arrests there presumably every night.

Is this okay? Do we, as a society, just accept this level of crime?

More related to the original issue, note that the security guards said the shooter threatened to shoot into the crowd at closing time. This could have been another mass shooting, if not for the presence of armed citizens.
Don't go to places where rough people go if you're not ready for the consequences.

I don't go to those places, if that's someone's scene I don't really care. Send a man to take reports the next morning and let the bar police itself during its operating hours. Police shouldn't be there to keep people safe from choosing to go to risky places.