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    Is it just me, or does this administration seem hell-bent on taking this country into a civil war?
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    "Obama’s advisers have calculated that the longer they wait, the more distance there is from the Newtown massacre and the greater the risk that the bipartisan political will to tackle gun violence will dissipate."

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    1930's & 40's America is horrified when Hitlers germany ask children to report on their neighbors
    Late 1940's & 50's, America is horrified when Russia ask their children to report on the neighbors
    2nd millennium, America ask it's children to report on their neighbors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theGinsue View Post
    Is it just me, or does this administration seem hell-bent on taking this country into a civil war?
    Civil war implies two somewhat equally matched sides. On other continents sometimes the military overthrows the existing government, or there are tribal warlords who have access to heavy weapons and armor with thousands of troops.

    No states have the balls to secede. The military is tightly controlled. All the militia groups in this country are infiltrated by the feds and filled with inbred dumbasses.

    There will be no "civil war." There will be no "revolution." The few sporadic uprisings will be quelled very quickly and efficiently with gas, gunships, and media blackout.

    The only thing that can save this country is a fucking asteroid strike. We have not one, but TWO, comets passing close to the Earth later this year. Keep your fingers crossed and hope one hits the East Coast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theGinsue View Post
    Is it just me, or does this administration seem hell-bent on taking this country into a civil war?
    And the light has shone........

    I think this is by design, an easy way to suspend the Constitution and impose martial law.
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    But the King underestimates his subjects.

    Gonna get worse before it gets better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theGinsue View Post
    Is it just me, or does this administration seem hell-bent on taking this country into a civil war?
    My thoughts and fears exactly! Long but interesting insight and information.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Clint45 View Post
    Civil war implies two somewhat equally matched sides. On other continents sometimes the military overthrows the existing government, or there are tribal warlords who have access to heavy weapons and armor with thousands of troops.

    No states have the balls to secede. The military is tightly controlled. All the militia groups in this country are infiltrated by the feds and filled with inbred dumbasses.

    There will be no "civil war." There will be no "revolution." The few sporadic uprisings will be quelled very quickly and efficiently with gas, gunships, and media blackout.

    The only thing that can save this country is a fucking asteroid strike. We have not one, but TWO, comets passing close to the Earth later this year. Keep your fingers crossed and hope one hits the East Coast.
    I disagree. I think there are more people who wouldn't go along with this than you realize, LE and mil included. Not only is it the job of the mil to follow and protect the constitution, but all LE as well and of course the citizens. At least the LE and mil would fracture and at best the mil would march on Washington.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BPTactical View Post
    And the light has shone........

    I think this is by design, an easy way to suspend the Constitution and impose martial law.
    The King has planned his subjects.
    But the King underestimates his subjects.

    Gonna get worse before it gets better.
    I tell you what, I have heard some folks I know who nobody would think of as "gun nuts" at all just blow up (in the pro-gun sense) when the topic of gun bans has come up. I love it. It's not a country wide sample, I know.

    I think the founders were right on with the 2A. Sadly, and hopefully not, some of us may see why it was put in there to begin with.

    As far as "the people vs. the military" or "the people vs. law enforcement"....I really do struggle with this a bit. But I feel in the end (maybe after a while of torturous martial law, atrocities by the current Admin., etc.) that the military and local LE would start saying "HELL NO!" and there would be a serious backlash.

    All of the polls indicate a strong "right leaning" military for sure. I can't see our guys doing mass political killings and such without an outright rebellion first, but maybe I'm naive and just a product of the Red Dawn generation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fmedges View Post
    I disagree. I think there are more people who wouldn't go along with this than you realize, LE and mil included. Not only is it the job of the mil to follow and protect the constitution, but all LE as well and of course the citizens. At least the LE and mil would fracture and at best the mil would march on Washington.
    I truly hope I am wrong and you are right . . . but I don't see it happening. They'll tell the cops they'll lose their badges and pensions and go to prison. They'll tell the soldiers they'll be executed or at the very least get sent to federal prison followed by a dishonorable discharge. I'm sure a few will make a stand . . . but it will be very few and largely ineffectual. How would they organize and communicate? Social networking sites? Twitter? Email? Cell phone texts? SIGINT will be intercepted. NSA has that covered. I do not see any sort of coup or revolt being successful given our dependence on computers and electronic gadgetry, and people's unwillingness to risk losing their jobs and pensions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clint45 View Post
    I truly hope I am wrong and you are right . . . but I don't see it happening. They'll tell the cops they'll lose their badges and pensions and go to prison. They'll tell the soldiers they'll be executed or at the very least get sent to federal prison followed by a dishonorable discharge. I'm sure a few will make a stand . . . but it will be very few and largely ineffectual. How would they organize and communicate? Social networking sites? Twitter? Email? Cell phone texts? SIGINT will be intercepted. NSA has that covered. I do not see any sort of coup or revolt being successful given our dependence on computers and electronic gadgetry, and people's unwillingness to risk losing their jobs and pensions.
    I'd rather not say what I think about communications, but instead of thinking about one huge organized effort, think more in terms of thousands of independent groups of people with the same goal.
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