And the progressive creep continues

[Troublco]

Well...ignoring what most of this thread has degenerated into - I find some of what they say in that article disturbing. As has been mentioned, children are not equipped to make decisions regarding sexual relationships, period. I believe that a convicted pedophile (and I am talking about someone who molests/rapes/whatever word you want to use; a prepubescent child, not a 17 year old) has no place in society. There's a substantial difference between someone who thinks about something (although who would want to think about this, I don't know) and someone who acts upon these thoughts. And I agree, you can't compare homosexuality with pedophilia.

I think it's telling that even prison inmates generally won't abide a pedophile or child murderer, or so I'm given to understand.

[Melvin]

Well...ignoring what most of this thread has degenerated into - I find some of what they say in that article disturbing. As has been mentioned, children are not equipped to make decisions regarding sexual relationships, period. I believe that a convicted pedophile (and I am talking about someone who molests/rapes/whatever word you want to use; a prepubescent child, not a 17 year old) has no place in society. There's a substantial difference between someone who thinks about something (although who would want to think about this, I don't know) and someone who acts upon these thoughts. And I agree, you can't compare homosexuality with pedophilia.

I think it's telling that even prison inmates generally won't abide a pedophile or child murderer, or so I'm given to understand.

Hey someone read the article. I think all normal people can agree that any adult who would try and justify this crime against nature is a sick fuck. The problem is the "ostrich with its head in the sand" attitude to recognizing and accepting "progressive creep". I don't care what social upheaval you want to name from the abolitionists to the feminazis to the rainbow nation to the drug addicts, I guarantee you that if you went back in time to just 20 years prior to all these milestones becoming normalized, I would defy you to find 1% of the citizens of the day who would have told you "Oh sure that will happen in my lifetime"

As was once said of the Mafia, "They aren't that good. They're just persistent".

As the article pointed out, the progressive view isn't only across the pond. It is right on our northern border. Filthy warped canucks who have laws on the books that result in stand up comedians being locked up for telling a joke about the testicular delusional circus are promoting the idea that abuse of children should be considered normal.

Regards your opinion of comparing one deviance to another. The word deviant has one definition: To deviate from accepted norm.
I really don't care where a deviant want wants to stick their junk. I am sick to death of morons preaching at me that it is "normal."
This is the same lot that want us to refer to some fool who wants to masquerade as a ugly woman as she/her.
But I guarantee this lot would be the first to call those nice young men in their clean white coats if some guy decided he wanted to
dress up like a baby and walk/crawl around in public dressed in a diaper with a pacifier in his mouth.

[Rucker61]

Hey someone read the article. I think all normal people can agree that any adult who would try and justify this crime against nature is a sick fuck. The problem is the "ostrich with its head in the sand" attitude to recognizing and accepting "progressive creep". I don't care what social upheaval you want to name from the abolitionists to the feminazis to the rainbow nation to the drug addicts, I guarantee you that if you went back in time to just 20 years prior to all these milestones becoming normalized, I would defy you to find 1% of the citizens of the day who would have told you "Oh sure that will happen in my lifetime"

As was once said of the Mafia, "They aren't that good. They're just persistent".

As the article pointed out, the progressive view isn't only across the pond. It is right on our northern border. Filthy warped canucks who have laws on the books that result in stand up comedians being locked up for telling a joke about the testicular delusional circus are promoting the idea that abuse of children should be considered normal.

Regards your opinion of comparing one deviance to another. The word deviant has one definition: To deviate from accepted norm.
I really don't care where a deviant want wants to stick their junk. I am sick to death of morons preaching at me that it is "normal."
This is the same lot that want us to refer to some fool who wants to masquerade as a ugly woman as she/her.
But I guarantee this lot would be the first to call those nice young men in their clean white coats if some guy decided he wanted to
dress up like a baby and walk/crawl around in public dressed in a diaper with a pacifier in his mouth.

The sexual fetish and deviation discussion forum is that way =====>.

I think you ended up here by mistake. We discuss firearms here.

[Ronin13]

Well...ignoring what most of this thread has degenerated into - I find some of what they say in that article disturbing. As has been mentioned, children are not equipped to make decisions regarding sexual relationships, period. I believe that a convicted pedophile (and I am talking about someone who molests/rapes/whatever word you want to use; a prepubescent child, not a 17 year old) has no place in society. There's a substantial difference between someone who thinks about something (although who would want to think about this, I don't know) and someone who acts upon these thoughts. And I agree, you can't compare homosexuality with pedophilia.

I think it's telling that even prison inmates generally won't abide a pedophile or child murderer, or so I'm given to understand.

THIS! I found out just a week before shipping off to Basic that a guy I went to HS with was busted for Statutory rape because he had relations with a 15 year old while he was 22 (I think her parents got involved)... It brought up the subject of is that considered pedophilia or not? At what age is one responsible for their sexual actions without being considered a child? I know of kids who are active at the age of 13. Now myself, I'm not attracted to any women under 21- kind hard to take a girl out and you're the only one who can drink legally... I agree that you have to be one very sick puppy to even think about young children in that way. I also agree that Homosexuality and pedophilia aren't even in the same category, one is a sickness, the other is a lifestyle.

Now, to everyone standing behind the OP on the "fudge packer" comment... do any of you know any gay folks? I do, and they're pretty good people- shit, one of them is a very pro-2A libertarian! I don't agree with his lifestyle, but it's not my place (since I believe in liberty) to tell him he's wrong in being attracted to other men. I am by no means a Progressive (ask DD and NMB), I align more as a Conservative Constitutionalist, but I am able to remove religious stigma and bias from politics, and though raised Christian (again, my dad's brother was gay and my grandparents are very conservative, very religious people but accepted their gay son) I feel I don't align with "mainstream" religion. Much like the teachings of Madison, Jefferson, and Adams- "Religion is the business of the individual, and their methods and means of worship may vary between people following the same faith."