And the progressive creep continues

[Teufelhund]

Just to pick on the most ludicrous parallel you drew (they're all ridiculous), someone who chooses not to eat meat also stands with the pedophiles? That may be the most back-woods, ignorant logical-leap I've heard in a very long time. Grow up.

[Drilldov2.0]

Okay gentlemen, stop swinging your dicks around around, please. None of you are close enough to hit each other with them anyway.

Let's discuss the article. It attempts to redefine the nature of the term "pedophile". The law already clearly defines it, yet somehow the article wishes to redefine the term. I have a huge problem with this. A child who is not trusted to drive, nor legal to drink certainly does not have the mental aptitude nor judgement to understand or decide whether or not a sexual relationship between an adult and child is either okay. Pedophilia is not a "sexual orientation" It disgusts me that it is even mentioned. How many of you parents would tolerate the redefinition of pedophilia as "sexual orientation" if it involved your child?

[GilpinGuy]

OK, so some eggheads think that pedophilia is a "sexual orientation". Fine. Then I guess necrophilia is as well? What a.

[Rucker61]

OK, so some eggheads think that pedophilia is a "sexual orientation". Fine. Then I guess necrophilia is as well? What a.

My takeaway from the article was that according to myriad studies, pedophilia is either a sexual orientation or a learned behaviour, but it is only acceptable as an orientation if it is controlled, ie, never acted upon. Evidently the ability to admit to the desire can help the person and society work to prevent any crimes from occuring. As a father, I think the ability to identify potential child molesters prior to the fact, rather than after, could be a good thing.

[wreave]

I think people suggesting pedophilia as sexual orientation are simply suggesting it is innate to a person and not something which can be "fixed". This does not, in and of itself, condone it, or suggest that a child has the mental capacity to consent to a relationship with an adult. It just recognizes that a pedophile may be "born that way".

I don't have a problem with that. We already know that people who commit sex crimes against children are likely to do it again. This is why we have sex offender registries (though you could argue they've gone too far).

A crime against a child is still a crime against a child. However, understanding that a person is "born that way" could lead to better treatment options and positive outcomes for society.

The comparison to homosexual relationships is stupid. What two consenting adults choose to do is completely up to them. I don't care and you shouldn't either.

[Ronin13]

Tell me who died and appointed you Czar of slurs? You want to dish but can't take it when it is served back. You are a classic post 70s product that has been programmed with what the PC position is on every social issue out there. Taught what to think, not how to think. You can't hoodwink a society that thinks for itself. The puppeteers figured that out.

If you want to discuss the subject of the ilk you stand with promoting the agenda of normalizing yet another crime against nature, let's talk. If all you want to do is sit and throw your pathetic bombs, I am done with you. There are far more interesting and accomplished people on this forum from whom I can learn.

In case you are confused as to where I stand, let me help.

Animal liberationists = pro abortionists = gun grabbers = tree huggers = anti capitalists = anti tobacco = pro weed = anthropomorphists = feminists = anti Christians = vegans = race pimps = glbtpb = greenies = LIBS

This is the same motley crew that will stand in solidarity with the pedophiles. But then if you had read any history you would know that.

The only way to deal with the mental disease of liberalism is to run over it and then back up to be sure. (I wonder how long it would take for them to introduce a bill to ban pickups?)

Clearly you lack the understanding of the definition of bigot. I was just stating common labels given to people like you- that is, people stuck in the 1940's culture where all is cut and dry, must abide by biblical law. Pedophilia is not, and never will be equal to homosexuality... you may find it to be gross, but the rest of the country realizes that it's gone on (sorry to disrupt your Roman Catholic Utopian dreams) for thousands of years and is perfectly normal. I'm not for PC, but I do respect others for having differing views, and don't "damn them to hell!" like you so quickly do. I'm not promoting some agenda to normalize anything... from the birth of this nation to 1865 it was viewed that black people were property, and that was "normal" for that time. Then in 1920 women were granted the right to vote. Before 1919 it was "normal" to not allow women to vote. I don't see those as wrong, it was the times, and now we're "awakening" if you will, to a time where a once taboo subject (homosexuality, not pedophilia) is actually "normal" and we were wrong and foolish to ever think it was wrong. That's where I draw the parallel, I don't consider one person's choice, albeit against religious norms, to be evil. I agree that liberalism is bad, but would never kill someone because of their political beliefs. If you truly think that way, and that is honestly what you believe, well, I would recommend you seek out help before you act on those impulses. You have an antiquated view on the opposite end of the spectrum than yourself, and that is why I used the term bigot, because that is exactly what it is. Welcome to 2013, we have this wonderful thing called freedom, where people can be vegans and environmentalists and support various causes... Sorry your hibernation took you too far into the future.

[Melvin]

Clearly you lack the understanding of the definition of bigot. I was just stating common labels given to people like you- that is, people stuck in the 1940's culture where all is cut and dry, must abide by biblical law. Pedophilia is not, and never will be equal to homosexuality... you may find it to be gross, but the rest of the country realizes that it's gone on (sorry to disrupt your Roman Catholic Utopian dreams) for thousands of years and is perfectly normal. I'm not for PC, but I do respect others for having differing views, and don't "damn them to hell!" like you so quickly do. I'm not promoting some agenda to normalize anything... from the birth of this nation to 1865 it was viewed that black people were property, and that was "normal" for that time. Then in 1920 women were granted the right to vote. Before 1919 it was "normal" to not allow women to vote. I don't see those as wrong, it was the times, and now we're "awakening" if you will, to a time where a once taboo subject (homosexuality, not pedophilia) is actually "normal" and we were wrong and foolish to ever think it was wrong. That's where I draw the parallel, I don't consider one person's choice, albeit against religious norms, to be evil. I agree that liberalism is bad, but would never kill someone because of their political beliefs. If you truly think that way, and that is honestly what you believe, well, I would recommend you seek out help before you act on those impulses. You have an antiquated view on the opposite end of the spectrum than yourself, and that is why I used the term bigot, because that is exactly what it is. Welcome to 2013, we have this wonderful thing called freedom, where people can be vegans and environmentalists and support various causes... Sorry your hibernation took you too far into the future.

Yup. I was right. You are a classic example of the generation produced by the liberal progressive machine. Original thought is not acceptable. That is how you mold a society and thus shackle it.

"Give me a child when he's 7 and he's mine forever,"


“He alone, who owns the youth, gains the future.”


“Youth is easily deceived, because it is quick to hope.”


“Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it”

“All propaganda has to be popular and has to accommodate itself to the comprehension of the least intelligent of those whom it seeks to reach.”


- Uncle Adolf

[blacklabel]

Yup. I was right. You are a classic example of the generation produced by the liberal progressive machine. Original thought is not acceptable. That is how you mold a society and thus shackle it.

"Give me a child when he's 7 and he's mine forever,"


“He alone, who owns the youth, gains the future.”


“Youth is easily deceived, because it is quick to hope.”


“Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it”

“All propaganda has to be popular and has to accommodate itself to the comprehension of the least intelligent of those whom it seeks to reach.”


- Uncle Adolf

Wow.

[ezgoinrob]

Your argument kinda lost traction when you said "fudge packers."

Bwahahahaha

[Troublco]

Well...ignoring what most of this thread has degenerated into - I find some of what they say in that article disturbing. As has been mentioned, children are not equipped to make decisions regarding sexual relationships, period. I believe that a convicted pedophile (and I am talking about someone who molests/rapes/whatever word you want to use; a prepubescent child, not a 17 year old) has no place in society. There's a substantial difference between someone who thinks about something (although who would want to think about this, I don't know) and someone who acts upon these thoughts. And I agree, you can't compare homosexuality with pedophilia.

I think it's telling that even prison inmates generally won't abide a pedophile or child murderer, or so I'm given to understand.