http://www.npr.org/2013/01/17/169580...ous-capitalism

In relevant part:

INSKEEP: You expressed concern at one time about socialism. Do you think that this is socialism?


MACKEY: Well, it depends on our definitions, here. Technically speaking, it's more like fascism. Socialism is where that government owns the means of production. In fascism, the government doesn't own the means of production, but they do control it. And that's what's happening with the health care program and with these reforms. So I'd say the system's becoming more fascist, or corporatism.


Mackey has since said he regrets using the word fascism due to its politically charge. He did not say it was wrong, just that he regretted saying it out loud.