We just don't see eye to eye...

[Ronin13]

So I had a conversation with my old man, who is a conservative, and he made a few comments that kind of upset me, saying how "You're as far right as anyone I know," and "some of the feelings you have toward the left are just plain mean." He thinks that my opinion of liberals is that they're all stupid... We've butted heads before on the 2nd Amendment, he's flat out said that he doesn't see a need for regular folks to have 30-round magazines, and high powered, semi-auto rifles. I honestly think his view on the constitution is a very liberal one. I can't talk to him about some of these issues (like potential AWBs), am I going about it wrong? Or is he just too stubborn to see from my perspective that a) democrat/liberal ideology is what's poisoning America, and b) The 2nd Amendment has nothing to do with just owning guns, but everything to do with keeping the government in check because if we're as well armed as them, they won't try and subjugate us... Is he a lost cause?

[Mazin]

Yep

[blacklabel]

Yeah, I'd let it go.

[Teufelhund]

Introduce him to BaileyGuns. Then see if you're still the "furthest right" person he knows.

[Ronin13]

Introduce him to BaileyGuns. Then see if you're still the "furthest right" person he knows.

Well I know Carl, albeit not very well... Unfortunately dad doesn't... he's really missing out!

[SA Friday]

Introduce him to BaileyGuns. Then see if you're still the "furthest right" person he knows.

Or BS.

[Rucker61]

So I had a conversation with my old man, who is a conservative, and he made a few comments that kind of upset me, saying how "You're as far right as anyone I know," and "some of the feelings you have toward the left are just plain mean." He thinks that my opinion of liberals is that they're all stupid... We've butted heads before on the 2nd Amendment, he's flat out said that he doesn't see a need for regular folks to have 30-round magazines, and high powered, semi-auto rifles. I honestly think his view on the constitution is a very liberal one. I can't talk to him about some of these issues (like potential AWBs), am I going about it wrong? Or is he just too stubborn to see from my perspective that a) democrat/liberal ideology is what's poisoning America, and b) The 2nd Amendment has nothing to do with just owning guns, but everything to do with keeping the government in check because if we're as well armed as them, they won't try and subjugate us... Is he a lost cause?

He's not a lost cause, he's your father. You're not supposed to agree with him. And he's right, no civilians have a need for high powered (sic) semi-auto ARs with 30 round magazines. But it's not about need, is it? The only government type that mentions "need" as a matter of policy is the one created by the writings of Marx. Just remember, no one is ever 100% correct. While you state that the democratic/liberal ideology is what is poisoning America, you have to understand that there is no one such ideology, and liberals in the past have driven policies that have helped America and that raised your standard of living, whether you accept that or not. Anti-pollution efforts, for one. The 40 hour work week. Food standards. Sure, there are lots of policies endorsed and created by the other side that have been and continue to be detrimental to the US.

Are you ever going to change his mind? I doubt it. Can you learn to live with him and his beliefs? I sincerely hope so.

[Sharpienads]

Aww, poor Ronin has daddy issues!

Jk. Sucks he doesn't see things the same way.

[ChunkyMonkey]

So I had a conversation with my old man, who is a conservative, and he made a few comments that kind of upset me, saying how "You're as far right as anyone I know," and "some of the feelings you have toward the left are just plain mean." He thinks that my opinion of liberals is that they're all stupid... We've butted heads before on the 2nd Amendment, he's flat out said that he doesn't see a need for regular folks to have 30-round magazines, and high powered, semi-auto rifles. I honestly think his view on the constitution is a very liberal one. I can't talk to him about some of these issues (like potential AWBs), am I going about it wrong? Or is he just too stubborn to see from my perspective that a) democrat/liberal ideology is what's poisoning America, and b) The 2nd Amendment has nothing to do with just owning guns, but everything to do with keeping the government in check because if we're as well armed as them, they won't try and subjugate us... Is he a lost cause?

I don't have the need of your father to continue having a successful insurance agency, but I will not infringe on his rights to pursue happiness. My right to purchase and own firearms are protected by the highest law of the land. As simple as that.

[NMB2]

Anti-pollution efforts, for one.

dont even get me started on this.