CALL TO ACTION: March on state capitols, 19 Jan!

[Ronin13]

Okay, a few questions... I believe the air has been cleared and it's legal to CCW, but the organizers are now stating that they would prefer if people did not CCW. So out of everyone who is going, that has a permit, who is going to be CCW and who will not? I'm on the fence here, they're acting like they don't want to stir up any trouble and risk anything, but on the other hand, I don't feel comfortable ever going to Denver without my EDC on my person. There are going to be cops everywhere, but going back to what's been said on here, cops are not there to protect you, their job usually is going on after a crime has been committed. Besides, isn't an armed society a polite society?

[hatidua]

This is one instance in which I think the CCW will stay home.

[birddog]

Okay, a few questions... I believe the air has been cleared and it's legal to CCW, but the organizers are now stating that they would prefer if people did not CCW. So out of everyone who is going, that has a permit, who is going to be CCW and who will not? I'm on the fence here, they're acting like they don't want to stir up any trouble and risk anything, but on the other hand, I don't feel comfortable ever going to Denver without my EDC on my person. There are going to be cops everywhere, but going back to what's been said on here, cops are not there to protect you, their job usually is going on after a crime has been committed. Besides, isn't an armed society a polite society?

Keep calm, carry on.

but seriously, you are not going to catch me in that armpit without my carry gun. Concealed means concealed an nobody needs to know.

[blacklabel]

I wont' be.

[asmo]

concealed is concealed.

You think they are going to be doing spot checks. Doubt it.

[ghettodub]

Unless I hear something definative about it somehow not being legal, I will be carrying. Whenever I go to Denver, I carry. I also take the lightrail, and then will ride the shuttle up and walk over, so that much time around the weirdos around 16th street? Yeah I'm carrying. And it's concealed, and I don't plan on anyone seeing it. If I get there and see something about it being illegal and they have metal detectors, then I leave.

[brobar]

This is all I can go by:

Spent an hour with two of the top cops this morning from the CHP. There is absolutely no guns allowed on state property. You will be arrested and I want you to know we are backing the police on this one. I know you have rights, but this is the law. And isn't that part of what we are conveying here? That we are law abiding citizens? Of course it is. So please, DONT BRING A GUN ON THE PROPERTY. DENVER PD also does not take kindly to this so I am asking you to use good judgement and common sense. We will have families with children there. I can assure you of this, there are other measures in place to protect the lives of everyone there. Next page DD

While we all know that "concealed means concealed"... the fact that they are trying to make Civic Center Park a temporary gun-free zone during the time of the rally leads me to believe that they will try and somehow enforce that (meaning wands). I just wish ANYBODY out there could find a statute that supports the park being a gun-free zone... thus making it illegal for concealed carry there. Nobody is willing to do that... which just tells me they want to temporarily make this an enforced gun-free zone.

[Ronin13]

I haven't seen the air cleared yet. All I have seen from the organizer is them telling attendees that it is a gun-free zone PERIOD! But nobody is willing to list the statute that supports the claim that the Civic City Park, adjacent to the capitol, is in fact a gun-free zone. I'll support the rally from a few blocks away (carrying) unless someone can clearly state it is illegal to conceal carry there and show the statute that backs up that claim. My fear, since it has not been explicitly cited, is that the LEO will have metal detecting wands there and will try and enforce an imaginary gun-free zone there. I will not get close to the park unless someone can clearly show a statute that states, in fact, that Civic Center Park is an enforced gun-free zone or not. Nobody seems willing to offer up that little tid-bit of information.

I'll post again without the quote for clarity:
Originally Posted by CRS Title 18, Article 12, 214
18-12-214. Authority granted by permit - carrying restrictions



(1) (a) A permit to carry a concealed handgun authorizes the permittee to carry a concealed handgun in all areas of the state, except as specifically limited in this section. A permit does not authorize the permittee to use a handgun in a manner that would violate a provision of state law. A local government does not have authority to adopt or enforce an ordinance or resolution that would conflict with any provision of this part 2.

(b) A peace officer may temporarily disarm a permittee, incident to a lawful stop of the permittee. The peace officer shall return the handgun to the permittee prior to discharging the permittee from the scene.

(2) A permit issued pursuant to this part 2 does not authorize a person to carry a concealed handgun into a place where the carrying of firearms is prohibited by federal law.

(3) A permit issued pursuant to this part 2 does not authorize a person to carry a concealed handgun onto the real property, or into any improvements erected thereon, of a public elementary, middle, junior high, or high school; except that:

(a) A permittee may have a handgun on the real property of the public school so long as the handgun remains in his or her vehicle and, if the permittee is not in the vehicle, the handgun is in a compartment within the vehicle and the vehicle is locked;

(b) A permittee who is employed or retained by contract by a school district as a school security officer may carry a concealed handgun onto the real property, or into any improvement erected thereon, of a public elementary, middle, junior high, or high school while the permittee is on duty;

(c) A permittee may carry a concealed handgun on undeveloped real property owned by a school district that is used for hunting or other shooting sports.

(4) A permit issued pursuant to this part 2 does not authorize a person to carry a concealed handgun into a public building at which:

(a) Security personnel and electronic weapons screening devices are permanently in place at each entrance to the building;

(b) Security personnel electronically screen each person who enters the building to determine whether the person is carrying a weapon of any kind; and

(c) Security personnel require each person who is carrying a weapon of any kind to leave the weapon in possession of security personnel while the person is in the building.

(5) Nothing in this part 2 shall be construed to limit, restrict, or prohibit in any manner the existing rights of a private property owner, private tenant, private employer, or private business entity.

(6) The provisions of this section apply to temporary emergency permits issued pursuant to section 18-12-209.

Been doing a lot of reading on the CRS the past few weeks and this is all I've seen relating to this rally.

[Aloha_Shooter]

I may be going now that my Scout campout has been postponed but my CCW is staying home. The organizers have asked you not to bring any firearms. Firmly standing up for your rights under YOUR understanding of the CRS can backfire on the rest of us in terms of the scene it creates and public opinion so if you can't respect the organizers' request then support the rally from across the street or on the Internet.

[asmo]

So is it at the Capitol or across the street at the park?

I'm so confused.