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    So now they are citing title 18-12-105- SUBSECTION C which states:

    § 18-12-105. Unlawfully carrying a concealed weapon - unlawful possession of weapons
    (1) A person commits a class 2 misdemeanor if such person knowingly and unlawfully:
    (a) Carries a knife concealed on or about his or her person; or
    (b) Carries a firearm concealed on or about his or her person; or
    (c) Without legal authority, carries, brings, or has in such person's possession a firearm or any explosive, incendiary, or other dangerous device on the property of or within any building in which the chambers, galleries, or offices of the general assembly, or either house thereof, are located, or in which a legislative hearing or meeting is being or is to be conducted, or in which the official office of any member, officer, or employee of the general assembly is located.
    (d) (Deleted by amendment, L. 93, p. 964, § 1, effective July 1, 1993.)
    (2) It shall not be an offense if the defendant was:
    (a) A person in his or her own dwelling or place of business or on property owned or under his or her control at the time of the act of carrying; or
    (b) A person in a private automobile or other private means of conveyance who carries a weapon for lawful protection of such person's or another's person or property while traveling; or
    (c) A person who, at the time of carrying a concealed weapon, held a valid written permit to carry a concealed weapon issued pursuant to section 18-12-105.1, as it existed prior to its repeal, or, if the weapon involved was a handgun, held a valid permit to carry a concealed handgun or a temporary emergency permit issued pursuant to part 2 of this article; except that it shall be an offense under this section if the person was carrying a concealed handgun in violation of the provisions of section 18-12-214; or
    (d) A peace officer, as described in section 16-2.5-101, C.R.S., when carrying a weapon in conformance with the policy of the employing agency as provided in section 16-2.5-101(2), C.R.S.; or
    (e) (Deleted by amendment, L. 2003, p. 1624, § 46, effective August 6, 2003.)
    (f) A United States probation officer or a United States pretrial services officer while on duty and serving in the state of Colorado under the authority of rules and regulations promulgated by the judicial conference of the United States
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    Quote Originally Posted by two shoes View Post
    So now they are citing title 18-12-105- SUBSECTION C which states:

    § 18-12-105. Unlawfully carrying a concealed weapon - unlawful possession of weapons
    (1) A person commits a class 2 misdemeanor if such person knowingly and unlawfully:
    (a) Carries a knife concealed on or about his or her person; or
    (b) Carries a firearm concealed on or about his or her person; or
    (c) Without legal authority, carries, brings, or has in such person's possession a firearm or any explosive, incendiary, or other dangerous device on the property of or within any building in which the chambers, galleries, or offices of the general assembly, or either house thereof, are located, or in which a legislative hearing or meeting is being or is to be conducted, or in which the official office of any member, officer, or employee of the general assembly is located.
    (d) (Deleted by amendment, L. 93, p. 964, § 1, effective July 1, 1993.)
    (2) It shall not be an offense if the defendant was:
    (a) A person in his or her own dwelling or place of business or on property owned or under his or her control at the time of the act of carrying; or
    (b) A person in a private automobile or other private means of conveyance who carries a weapon for lawful protection of such person's or another's person or property while traveling; or
    (c) A person who, at the time of carrying a concealed weapon, held a valid written permit to carry a concealed weapon issued pursuant to section 18-12-105.1, as it existed prior to its repeal, or, if the weapon involved was a handgun, held a valid permit to carry a concealed handgun or a temporary emergency permit issued pursuant to part 2 of this article; except that it shall be an offense under this section if the person was carrying a concealed handgun in violation of the provisions of section 18-12-214; or
    (d) A peace officer, as described in section 16-2.5-101, C.R.S., when carrying a weapon in conformance with the policy of the employing agency as provided in section 16-2.5-101(2), C.R.S.; or
    (e) (Deleted by amendment, L. 2003, p. 1624, § 46, effective August 6, 2003.)
    (f) A United States probation officer or a United States pretrial services officer while on duty and serving in the state of Colorado under the authority of rules and regulations promulgated by the judicial conference of the United States

    Well I think they were referring to 18-12-105 section 1 subsection C which states:
    A person commits a class 2 misdemeanor if such person knowingly and unlawfully: Without legal authority, carries, brings, or has in such person's possession a firearm or any explosive, incendiary, or other dangerous device on the property of or within any building in which the chambers, galleries, or offices of the general assembly, or either house thereof, are located, or in which a legislative hearing or meeting is being or is to be conducted, or in which the official office of any member, officer, or employee of the general assembly is located.
    But the part I don't like is they are purposefully leaving out section 2, subsection C which sates (as you highlighted):
    It shall not be an offense if the defendant was: A person who, at the time of carrying a concealed weapon, held a valid written permit to carry a concealed weapon issued pursuant to section 18-12-105.1, as it existed prior to its repeal, or, if the weapon involved was a handgun, held a valid permit to carry a concealed handgun or a temporary emergency permit issued pursuant to part 2 of this article; except that it shall be an offense under this section if the person was carrying a concealed handgun in violation of the provisions of section 18-12-214;
    I'm just immensely surprised and disappointed they are handling it the way they are. I won't let it stop me from going... we all need to be there if we can. But I will let it stop me from going into the park. If they are willing to twist and bend the law to try and get good, law-abiding citizens arrested... I want NO part of that. I'll stand across the street near a restaurant with a restroom.

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    To me the LEGAL AUTHORITY is recognized by my permit, as granted by my Creator. Zero chance of going to Denver with my family unarmed. ZERO. So CSP will provide for our safety and protection? Anyone else see the fucking irony in this???
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    Just a word of caution, we don't want to give the press any form of controversial story that they can run with. Meaning that if a bunch of you show up with guns in violation of local laws, that is all the press will cover. Law breakers will be the headline and the purpose of the rally will never be covered.

    Do what you want... but clown acts will hurt our cause.

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    The whole situation stinks. I believe if we let them make up false laws then they will continue to do so. There has to be a way to call them on their bullshit. BTW I went to the airport yesterday and since I was carrying I stayed outside. I broke no laws even though I was on airport "land".
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    I don't think any of us are talking about showing up with guns in violation of local laws; i'm not sure why that keeps being brought up here, and on facebook. I think people have just been trying to clarify if there are any restrictions about carrying by the capitol, and some of us who want to exercise our right to carry are choosing to hang out away from the event to not cause any conflict, and remove the possibility of us being involved in any conflict.
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    Really I don't care if you think you are in violation of local laws or not. In the PR PUBLIC RELATIONS sense, you don't ever want to give your enemies an easy way of demonizing you. Don't act like a clown and please ask anyone who is acting like a clown to stop making all those who fight for 2nd amendment freedom look bad. Always think about how things can be taken out of context and blown up into a sound bite. No one cares about the 99% of other good people or good things said if 1% F it up.

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    I'm going but I won't be able to get there till around 13:00. I think I will leave my carry in the car though. I'm excited to see what kind of turn out we will produce, See you guys tomorrow!

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