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    Quote Originally Posted by kraven251 View Post
    Don't give an inch. Businesses like Magpul etc. would take a huge hit. If "high-cap" mags become flat out illegal, what do you do then... They will take everything we as a country will let them take. I want them to prove to me without a reasonable doubt that a ban on their definition of "high-cap" magazines would change anything, because we all know it won't change a damned thing.
    I'm not saying that I'm for a high-cap mag ban, just saying that it really beats the alternative. Its still a hit to our freedom and is another piece of legislature that would be better served as TP.

    I continue to write my reps and am hoping that things either fizzle out in the end and nothing happens, or the fewest amount of our liberties are stolen.

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    Statement From the National Rifle Association of America Regarding Today's White House Task Force Meeting

    Posted on January 10, 2013

    Fairfax, Va. – The National Rifle Association of America is made up of over 4 million moms and dads, daughters and sons, who are involved in the national conversation about how to prevent a tragedy like Newtown from ever happening again. We attended today's White House meeting to discuss how to keep our children safe and were prepared to have a meaningful conversation about school safety, mental health issues, the marketing of violence to our kids and the collapse of federal prosecutions of violent criminals.

    We were disappointed with how little this meeting had to do with keeping our children safe and how much it had to do with an agenda to attack the Second Amendment. While claiming that no policy proposals would be “prejudged,” this Task Force spent most of its time on proposed restrictions on lawful firearms owners - honest, taxpaying, hardworking Americans. It is unfortunate that this Administration continues to insist on pushing failed solutions to our nation's most pressing problems. We will not allow law-abiding gun owners to be blamed for the acts of criminals and madmen. Instead, we will now take our commitment and meaningful contributions to members of congress of both parties who are interested in having an honest conversation about what works - and what does not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave_L View Post
    I heard Walmart reps were asked to attend also? Can anyone confirm that?
    WM like other large chains have a vested interest pushing for BG checks across the board. IF you have to do a BG check, imagine the cash flow generated @ WM. Add the buying power of 1K stores that sell guns vs the LGS and they have serious coin in their pocket.

    While it would be interesting to see WM step up their Gun Inventory , like they use to have pre Columbine. The head lines touting WM backing BG checks takes more wind out of our sails.

    Either way we are Fucked, either way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BuffCyclist View Post
    I'm not saying that I'm for a high-cap mag ban, just saying that it really beats the alternative. Its still a hit to our freedom and is another piece of legislature that would be better served as TP.

    I continue to write my reps and am hoping that things either fizzle out in the end and nothing happens, or the fewest amount of our liberties are stolen.
    Hey man, i think WREAVE hacked your account.
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    Quote Originally Posted by asmotao View Post
    The NRA isnt sending anyone important (and neither is the Biden comission) -- since both sides know its bullshit. Just a checkbox to say "we met with all sides". Nothing positive (or negative) will come from this. Its just a PR stunt.
    BTW, the NRA sent James Baker who, as head of the NRA Institute for Legislative Action, was the NRA's chief lobbyist for several years. Jim is a 16-year NRA veteran.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuffCyclist View Post
    I'm not saying that I'm for a high-cap mag ban, just saying that it really beats the alternative. Its still a hit to our freedom and is another piece of legislature that would be better served as TP.

    I continue to write my reps and am hoping that things either fizzle out in the end and nothing happens, or the fewest amount of our liberties are stolen.
    No worries, I'll hold on to your guns until you come to your senses...
    Quote Originally Posted by Clay Turner View Post
    BTW, the NRA sent James Baker who, as head of the NRA Institute for Legislative Action, was the NRA's chief lobbyist for several years. Jim is a 16-year NRA veteran.
    Chris Cox is actually the head of the NRA-ILA, Baker is #2 to him... Just FYI.
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    Yep, turned out as expected -

    Biden - FU
    NRA - FU too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inconel710 View Post
    Yep, turned out as expected -

    Biden - FU
    NRA - FU too
    At least the NRA didn't sell us down the river like they did in 86 and 94...yet
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    Key word in there being "was;" Sorry if that wasn't clear; Baker was head of ILA from 1991-94, and again from 1998-2002, I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TFOGGER View Post
    At least the NRA didn't sell us down the river like they did in 86 and 94...yet
    From that statement they released, it looks like they are sticking to their guns (pun intended?). I think we have a much stronger NRA now than we did in the 90's, today just proved that. I hope they stick it out and don't give up. I'm going to continue to be a member... for now.
    Quote Originally Posted by Clay Turner View Post
    Key word in there being "was;" Sorry if that wasn't clear; Baker was head of ILA from 1991-94, and again from 1998-2002, I think.
    Me not do read too gud... I'll take the hit on that one, I thought you were referring to current head of ILA. But that doesn't inspire confidence, 94 was when they caved to the Brady's... Goddammit! <Eric Carman.
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