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    Why is 'compromise' even in the vocabulary when it comes to a discussion of rights?

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    Here's my concept on "compromise". I'll compromise by letting the politicians go back to giving a shit about my economy, quit stealing from social security, get our troops home (for good), and stop wiping their feet on my Constitution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hatidua View Post
    The government dictates enough of what goes on in our lives already. I don't think willfully inviting more oversight is even remotely close to being a good idea.

    Don't blame me for what a criminal steals, blame the criminal!
    Agreed. This is what the argument should be until they can come up with a good rebuttal.

    When it comes to every other crime we usually blame the person but when guns are involved we blame the gun. HTF does that make sense, if someone can give a coherent answer that has no holes, I'll let the government have my pmags and tell me to get a safe.

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    "Safe storage" laws are intended to discourage ownership of firearms by intimidating gun owners.
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    Can we just back up a little bit, for a more macro perspective? If all these things that the anti-gun people are being talked about today are really true, then just how did we survive as mankind for this long? Guns weren't created in the last decade...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharpienads View Post
    I think its a good idea to lock up your firearms.

    I do not think its a good idea to make it mandatory.
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    The shotgun stays next to the bed unless I am leaving overnight. It is a basic 870 I am out 250 bucks if does get stolen. Much cheaper than the other firearms and hell even the home theater equipment. It is big and hard to conceal unlike pistols and it is not worth a down payment on a car currently like my AR's.
    You sir, are a specialist in the art of discovering a welcoming outcome of a particular situation....not a mechanic.

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    Default An actual real compromise that benefits both sides, and helps to reduce a real problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by hatidua View Post
    They have that in California if I'm not mistaken.

    To nobody in particular, if this is something you support, here's how you go about it:

    Take I-70 West until it hits I-15. Turn left when you get to I-15 and continue on until you get to CA. They've already got it taken care of, you'll be happy there.
    You are mistaken. What you might be thinking of is that each firearm purchased must also have a lock (purchased within 30 days) or you give them make and model of your safe. Locks cost $7 and even then you just need one, and then sell it to a friend for $1, buy it back from your friend for $1 and write a bill of sale with the date on it. Perfectly 100% legal.

    Or else, you are liable if you keep guns unlocked in your home and a kid takes the gun and does something stupid with it.

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    Default An actual real compromise that benefits both sides, and helps to reduce a real problem.

    Slight tangent: what do people suggest as a safe way to store firearms if they live in an apartment where they cannot just go and buy a huge safe? Put cable locks on them and try to insure the hell out of them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KestrelBike View Post
    Slight tangent: what do people suggest as a safe way to store firearms if they live in an apartment where they cannot just go and buy a huge safe? Put cable locks on them and try to insure the hell out of them?
    insurance is mandatory for apt living as it is. i was in the same situation and actually bought a job box type thing off Craigslist that locks put them in there and put a throw rug over the top and called it a coffee table
    You sir, are a specialist in the art of discovering a welcoming outcome of a particular situation....not a mechanic.

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