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    Default An actual real compromise that benefits both sides, and helps to reduce a real problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by DFBrews View Post
    insurance is mandatory for apt living as it is. i was in the same situation and actually bought a job box type thing off Craigslist that locks put them in there and put a throw rug over the top and called it a coffee table
    Hahaha genius!!

    I wouldn't trust renters insurance to cover firearms, I go over SPECIFICALLY with the agent what I have and that if it gets stolen, I want it replaced, and not just FMV but what I originally paid for it. It has required some thorough documentation that might make some shudder, but it helps me sleep at night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KestrelBike View Post
    Hahaha genius!!

    I wouldn't trust renters insurance to cover firearms, I go over SPECIFICALLY with the agent what I have and that if it gets stolen, I want it replaced, and not just FMV but what I originally paid for it. It has required some thorough documentation that might make some shudder, but it helps me sleep at night.

    With all the ammo and firearms it would take 2 big dudes to move the thing and down 3 flights of stairs good luck!

    now I ended up with a snap safe that is assembled in a closet with the door smaller than the safe itself
    You sir, are a specialist in the art of discovering a welcoming outcome of a particular situation....not a mechanic.

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    Massachusetts has such a law. A buddy of mine's father had a heart attack, wife calls 911 and police and ambulance come, take him to hospital, police see an 870 behind the door (home defense gun) police arrest 70 year old wife who's husband is in the ambulance for "unsafe storage"

    case was dismissed, but cost her thousands in legal fees. Husband lives, but looses all guns (as Mass has another law that requires all gun owners to have a license- and the chief of police decided he was unsuitable because of his unsafe storage ). he transfers his collection to his son (my buddy) but because he has no license (and even if he did the state only allows 4 FTF transactions a year) is required to have FFL transfer them at a discounted rate of $20 per.

    AND NOW THERE'S A 75 YEAR OLD WOMAN, AND HER 80 YEAR OLD HUSBAND WHO HAVE NO WAY TO DEFEND THEMSELVES IN CASE OF ROBBERY OR HOME INVASION.

    all because of a safe storage law....

    oh, the law also states that if you don't have direct control (on your person) the gun must be locked in a secure container or with a trigger lock. So a LAW ABIDING citizen who gets his home broken into in the middle of the night , gets woken from a dead sleep, has to get to his safe, fumble with the combination (most likely in the dark) before he can defend his life or the life of his children

    say no to safe storage laws (and any compromise)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ridge View Post
    Everybody is still able to purchase and do whatever the hell else they currently can. But, they need to have some form of locking cabinet for the guns when they are not in use. Just needs to be secured while you are not at home.
    Exactly one of the many requirements that England put in place... Before they confiscated all the guns.

    What many fail to realize is that we've been "compromising" since the early 1900s on this issue and all it does is keep moving the "middle ground" closer and closer to confiscation.

    Make up your mind on where you stand on this issue: Is it a right or isn't it? If it's a right, look at restrictions of the first amendment as a model as to what's acceptable as restrictions on the second.

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    When seconds count, the police are mere minutes away...
    Gun registration is gun confiscation in slow motion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HBARleatherneck View Post
    cars kill 40,000 people a year. and we dont make people lock their cars in state approved garages. cars are even stolen frequently and used in crimes. for the children we should lock up cars.

    if the guns are stored in your private vehicle or private home, that is secure enough. if the criminals obeyed the laws, then you wouldnt have to worry.

    subsidize gun safes? so, we can borrow more money from china and force taxpayers to help us buy a safe? NO.

    then comes the STATE mandated periodic checks at your home, to make sure you guns are locked up. of course if they had a list of all the guns you own, then they could see if they were all locked in the safe. or they will just have to search your entire property searching for any unlocked guns. NO
    I think you should have to take the gas out of your car and take the tires off when you aren't driving your it.
    This would prevent people from stealing it and using it crimes, becoming involved in High speed pursuits or crimes against children.
    It wouldn't add that much to your day, I see people on TV Take Tires off and replace them on Cars in just seconds... a few seconds...Think of the lives it would save.
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    Compromise means both sides losing something to come to an agreement. Since the left is offering absolutely nothing in the form of a loss, and since I believe we have offered more than we ever should have in the past, I will not compromise. To those gun owners attempting to sell us down the river, you will forever be remembered as cowards, traitors, and collaborators.
    These people compromised, and their fate was sealed:

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