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    Damn right! Good video

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    Shared this on Facebook yesterday and already had 18 of my friends "life" it. This is encouraging.
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    "When law and morality contradict each other, the citizen has the cruel alternative of either losing his moral sense or losing his respect for the law." -Frederic Bastiat

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    I have been in 22 countries when deployed with the USMC. I have seen the kind of people who revolt, who stand against the government. And in my experience, they were poor, with NOTHING to lose. They were already hungry, they already jobless. They didnt have any reason to sit and be satisfied with the status quo. But, Americans have had it good, for so many generations, that they have no clue. Most couldnt go a night without shelter and warmth. Couldnt go a day without food. This is why our people will turn against their own citizens. They will not want to be cold and hungry.


    dont get me wrong. i know these people have families and children to feed. nobody is going to want to lose their ability to house and feed their family.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HBARleatherneck View Post
    I have been in 22 countries when deployed with the USMC. I have seen the kind of people who revolt, who stand against the government. And in my experience, they were poor, with NOTHING to lose. They were already hungry, they already jobless. They didnt have any reason to sit and be satisfied with the status quo. But, Americans have had it good, for so many generations, that they have no clue. Most couldnt go a night without shelter and warmth. Couldnt go a day without food. This is why our people will turn against their own citizens. They will not want to be cold and hungry.


    dont get me wrong. i know these people have families and children to feed. nobody is going to want to lose their ability to house and feed their family.
    While I respect your experience and service, your description does not describe a single member of our Founding Fathers. Each of them had much more to lose than gain by openly declaring Independence from Great Britain. If the call comes, each of us will answer according to our conscience. 20+ years ago, when I entered the profession, I had some ideas about what I was willing to do and what I could not do. I am not the same man that I was when I entered the profession, but at my core, I have the same principles and my integrity is intact. I guess we will see, when we see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HBARleatherneck View Post
    "And it cant be wrong if our superiors at the Department told us to do it."

    I get the other part of your comment, and there's a lot of truth there. I think we have to hope, pray, count on, whatever you want to call it, that people understand that if we continue letting these things go that what we will ultimately end up with is worse. When we started this country a whole bunch of people with things to lose understood what the deal was, and fought anyway. Many died, many families were left without the man of the house. I think a lot of people today are thinking hard about what they will do if the time comes to make the decision. I pray they are, anyhow; I hope they think about it before they really have to make that decision.

    But, I remember my training regarding Lawful orders. The example they used was the Nazi's defense at Nuremberg that they were "just following orders"; and how that doesn't wash. If you're ordered to do something you know is wrong, it is your duty to disobey that order. Even if threatened with consequences. Let's hope everyone in a uniform remembers that.


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    You have some good points, HBAR. I respectfully disagree.

    Over the past several weeks, and with increasing frequency we are hearing from Sheriffs, LE, and commanding officers of various military units all issuing statements that equate to "we will not comply." I have confidence in the indelible American spirit and I think there are more than we can see who have already made up their minds that they will do whatever it takes. I hope so anyway; otherwise why should any of us care to save it?
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