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    Quote Originally Posted by def90 View Post
    As long as Elway continues to want to be the center of the Bronco universe they will continue to falter..
    Thats an odd stance, explain...

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    Quote Originally Posted by lowspeed_highdrag View Post
    Thats an odd stance, explain...
    Having not been born and raised here (hey, at least I'm not from Cali) Denver has a really odd infatuation with Elway. I am sure Elway and Bowlen have a love child in a closet somewhere. Elway hasn't done a thing other than rent his name to any business that comes along with enough money. As a player he was a slightly above average QB.. I think most of his success was due to the team around him. No one here will ever criticize anything Elway will say or do. Jake Plummer still has the best record since Elway and the people here hated him just because he wasn't Elway. John Fox is a slightly above average head coach that is just good enough to keep his job and like Elway is primarily successful because of the coaches below him.

    I see it playing out like this.. Elway will continue to hog the media spotlight, the team will always be about him, he will make bad decisions that absolutely no one will question, the Broncos will continue to be just good enough but yet not quite good enough to finish the season. Elway will be the Jerry Jones of the Broncos.

    I grew up in Minnesota so I know what that is all about.

    http://www.pro-football-reference.co...E/ElwaJo00.htm
    Last edited by def90; 01-14-2013 at 21:10.

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    Quote Originally Posted by def90 View Post
    Having not been born and raised here (hey, at least I'm not from Cali) Denver has a really odd infatuation with Elway. I am sure Elway and Bowlen have a love child in a closet somewhere. Elway hasn't done a thing other than rent his name to any business that comes along with enough money. As a player he was a slightly above average QB.. I think most of his success was due to the team around him. No one here will ever criticize anything Elway will say or do. Jake Plummer still has the best record since Elway and the people here hated him just because he wasn't Elway. John Fox is a slightly above average head coach that is just good enough to keep his job and like Elway is primarily successful because of the coaches below him.

    I see it playing out like this.. Elway will continue to hog the media spotlight, the team will always be about him, he will make bad decisions that absolutely no one will question, the Broncos will continue to be just good enough but yet not quite good enough to finish the season. Elway will be the Jerry Jones of the Broncos.

    I grew up in Minnesota so I know what that is all about.

    http://www.pro-football-reference.co...E/ElwaJo00.htm
    What are the bad decisions that you think mar Elways tenure as manager?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lowspeed_highdrag View Post
    What are the bad decisions that you think mar Elways tenure as manager?
    Honestly? Manning. Don't get me wrong.. Manning is a star QB but the question remains, for how long? Minnesota has been playing this game for years, lets pick up a QB that only has a couple years at best left in him to try to get instant results. It always ends the same way, you get a fairly decent year or two but never quite make it, then you get the year with the final injury or they just can't play anymore and that ends it all. In the mean time there is no plan for succession and you start the process all over looking for the next star to save you.

    The Broncos need to seriously look for the next franchise QB, not the guy that is going to get them to the playoffs right now. That thinking only goes so far. How long have the Patriots been at the top? Broncos under Manning will never achieve that. Broncos with a fresh new QB might. As far as I know I see no signs that this isn't even on the horizon at the moment.

    Oh yeah, the OLine that made Tebow run all last year is still just as bad. Manning got beat up this year, probably not something he was used to.

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