Is Manning worth it?

[lowspeed_highdrag]

This thread blows my mind. I understand not knowing all the intricacies of professional football, but to seriously say that because Manning wasn't hot (along with just about every other Bronco) in one game, Tebow is a far better QB is just simply retarded. I cant think of any other way to say it, that line of thinking is mentally deficient.

The 2013 season will see a Denver team that is now fully on the same page, with an entire off season to practice together, as well as a huge amount of money to spend on keeping great players and acquiring free agents, and also a #1 draft pick to use along the way.

Manning threw a pass to Decker, Decker's arm was pushed down in an obvious PI instance, the ball was tipped into a Raven's hand and a pick-six ensued. This was nobody's fault but the Ref for not throwing a flag. Take 7 points from the Ravens for that one. Prater misses an easy FG, give us 3 points. Champ is burned twice for TD's, take 14 from the Ravens. Moore is burned for one TD, take 7 from the Ravens. Manning's fumble is incorrectly ruled as a fumble, thus giving unfair advantage to the Ravens. Our first, AND second string RB's were injured and out, leaving us with a nearly non existent running game. To blame this all on Manning is so retarded I just simply dont get it.

THERE IS A REASON THAT NO PROFESSIONAL TEAM WANTS TEBOW. HE IS NOT A GOOD QUARTERBACK. Sure, he is a stand up guy who works hard and plays with intensity, but under center is not where he belongs in the NFL, at least not in a traditional sense, and especially not in a longterm role.

We've got a legend under center now that took us to 13-3 and the playoffs, in his first year with a new team and after having to relearn how to throw, and the idiot Denver fans are already chanting "Tebow, Tebow, Tebow!"

[Pancho Villa]

This thread blows my mind. I understand not knowing all the intricacies of professional football, but to seriously say that because Manning wasn't hot (along with just about every other Bronco) in one game, Tebow is a far better QB is just simply retarded. I cant think of any other way to say it, that line of thinking is mentally deficient.

The 2013 season will see a Denver team that is now fully on the same page, with an entire off season to practice together, as well as a huge amount of money to spend on keeping great players and acquiring free agents, and also a #1 draft pick to use along the way.

Manning threw a pass to Decker, Decker's arm was pushed down in an obvious PI instance, the ball was tipped into a Raven's hand and a pick-six ensued. This was nobody's fault but the Ref for not throwing a flag. Take 7 points from the Ravens for that one. Prater misses an easy FG, give us 3 points. Champ is burned twice for TD's, take 14 from the Ravens. Moore is burned for one TD, take 7 from the Ravens. Manning's fumble is incorrectly ruled as a fumble, thus giving unfair advantage to the Ravens. Our first, AND second string RB's were injured and out, leaving us with a nearly non existent running game. To blame this all on Manning is so retarded I just simply dont get it.

THERE IS A REASON THAT NO PROFESSIONAL TEAM WANTS TEBOW. HE IS NOT A GOOD QUARTERBACK. Sure, he is a stand up guy who works hard and plays with intensity, but under center is not where he belongs in the NFL, at least not in a traditional sense, and especially not in a longterm role.

We've got a legend under center now that took us to 13-3 and the playoffs, in his first year with a new team and after having to relearn how to throw, and the idiot Denver fans are already chanting "Tebow, Tebow, Tebow!"

This times a million.

[T-Jet]

Didn't Tebow, who the Broncos paid SIGNIFICANTLY less get the team just as far?

Up until Saturday the answer was "DEFINATELY" - then Sat night it was "Oh - I dunno?!"

Give me a break. As nice a guy Tebow seems to be and I like that about him he's not a top shelf QB in the NFL. Manning is. The Broncos went to the playoffs last season due to some absolutely miraculous last minute plays for how many games ? It was the most exciting 4th quarter football I've seen since The Cardiac Kid in Cleveland.
Manning took the Broncos to the playoffs without it being in doubt for each and every game for most of the second half of the season.

No comparison between the two QB's. Don't get me wrong - I'd love to have Tebow back as the kids got oodles of moxie and elevates the players around him to be better but he's not an accurate passer. Manning is a pro - been there done that. I'd take him any day over anyone else in the league.

Oh - and I hope the Cheatriots lose in a huge way to the Ravens. I'd love to see Brady get hit so hard on a blindside play that his head pops off...

[Gman]

Thanks for your play this year! can you at least tell us your jersey number so we can root for you next year too?

ROTFLMAO!!

[jerrymrc]

Every time a running QB comes into the league people start to say that.

Then a few years into his career he has some serious injury getting hit by people who have 100+lbs on him and he's never quite the same.

Repeat cycle. There's a reason Elway is a GOAT contender.

^^^^ We have a winner there.

[dorsum]

That's exactly what I said to my wife when they lost.

[def90]

As long as Elway continues to want to be the center of the Bronco universe they will continue to falter..

[lowspeed_highdrag]

As long as Elway continues to want to be the center of the Bronco universe they will continue to falter..

Thats an odd stance, explain...

[def90]

Thats an odd stance, explain...

Having not been born and raised here (hey, at least I'm not from Cali) Denver has a really odd infatuation with Elway. I am sure Elway and Bowlen have a love child in a closet somewhere. Elway hasn't done a thing other than rent his name to any business that comes along with enough money. As a player he was a slightly above average QB.. I think most of his success was due to the team around him. No one here will ever criticize anything Elway will say or do. Jake Plummer still has the best record since Elway and the people here hated him just because he wasn't Elway. John Fox is a slightly above average head coach that is just good enough to keep his job and like Elway is primarily successful because of the coaches below him.

I see it playing out like this.. Elway will continue to hog the media spotlight, the team will always be about him, he will make bad decisions that absolutely no one will question, the Broncos will continue to be just good enough but yet not quite good enough to finish the season. Elway will be the Jerry Jones of the Broncos.

I grew up in Minnesota so I know what that is all about.

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...E/ElwaJo00.htm

[Aloha_Shooter]

I agree that Denver is overly infatuated with Elway but I'd say he was more than slightly above average. No Montana or Baugh but he consistently kept a subpar team in the running. He also forgets his own history as a scrambling get-it-done-in-the-fourth-quarter QB. I thought it was funny how Denver criticized Tebow for always coming alive in the second half because that was all Elway ever did (except when he got shut down in the second half like in the Super Bowl against Washington).

I think you're right about Elway hogging the spotlight and continuing to make bad decisions but don't ever compare him to Jerry Jones. No one could be a horses arse like Jerry Jones.