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    THE leader on the Broncos right now is Manning then Elway. When you look at the Ravnes and the 49ers, even the Patriots and Falcons, the HEAD coaches are the leaders of those teams. Fox has no clue what is going on half the time. How many times have you seen him, bewildered look and hands in the air trying to figure out what happened. Leaders lead, but Fox is following. Manning makes everyone look good.
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    Hell no he aint worth it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by def90 View Post
    Having not been born and raised here (hey, at least I'm not from Cali) Denver has a really odd infatuation with Elway. I am sure Elway and Bowlen have a love child in a closet somewhere. Elway hasn't done a thing other than rent his name to any business that comes along with enough money. As a player he was a slightly above average QB.. I think most of his success was due to the team around him. No one here will ever criticize anything Elway will say or do. Jake Plummer still has the best record since Elway and the people here hated him just because he wasn't Elway. John Fox is a slightly above average head coach that is just good enough to keep his job and like Elway is primarily successful because of the coaches below him.

    I see it playing out like this.. Elway will continue to hog the media spotlight, the team will always be about him, he will make bad decisions that absolutely no one will question, the Broncos will continue to be just good enough but yet not quite good enough to finish the season. Elway will be the Jerry Jones of the Broncos.

    I grew up in Minnesota so I know what that is all about.

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    Last year we were essentially a joke. We were a team that stumbled and tripped our way into the playoffs as a terrible 8-8 team. This year Manning brought true legitimacy to us as a team, one that could compete with the elite teams in the league. Tebow could barely make it as a special teams player on the Jets. No comparison.

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    Yup, last year was a miracle - all of the last second wins...

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    Manning is not the problem but he does have limitations. He needs a lot of O-line protections. The problem was the team was playing scared. Not throwing the ball at the end of the half’s. Giving up big plays for touch downs. I admit I don't care as much after they traded Tebow. I still have my #15 jersey.
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    last i looked having Manning on the team did not cost me a dime

    Having a star Qb and true team leader is priceless, besides i dont have to watch Tebow suck anymore.
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    Peyton Manning seems like an all around good guy, an excellent QB, and a good leader. That said, I'm in the crowd that says he's a bad, short-sighted investment. I think too many professional sports teams look only to the immediate season - often times firing integral people mid-season etc. Tebow was raw and unpolished, true. But he had years more of potential in him, and he's never been in the lead-seat long enough to really establish himself. He had the work ethic and the attitude to keep plugging away until he became a really brilliant QB. Manning may come with a stellar skillset, but he's going to err on the side of caution every time when faced with a possible exacerbating neck injury in a play. Not his fault - just human self-preservation instinct. It's the fault of management for trading away what I believe was a better long-term investment, for a year or two of star-power.

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    Plus, I liked having God on the Broncos side. ;-)

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    Unless Tebow will settle as a back up RB or TE, his time in the NFL is done.
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