French Ride Forth to Check Islamic Aggresion

[Ghosty]

Wow, looks like a slap to America's intelligence/military efforts there. Glad the French aren't afraid to get dirty. Africa is such a clusterfuck.

[Pancho Villa]

Wow, looks like a slap to America's intelligence/military efforts there. Glad the French aren't afraid to get dirty. Africa is such a clusterfuck.

The whole WOT has been a decade+ long story of "roll in, make things worse, wonder what happened."

It's really a sad state of affairs, the Islamists are stronger now than they ever have been. Hopefully the French do a better job, but who knows.

[Ronin13]

The whole WOT has been a decade+ long story of "roll in, make things worse, wonder what happened."

It's really a sad state of affairs, the Islamists are stronger now than they ever have been. Hopefully the French do a better job, but who knows.

Funny... I don't see them being stronger at all. I see maybe their cause being bolstered a bit because of wars in Islamic lands- but stronger? I don't remember any successful large-scale attacks on US Soil since 2001... Oh and I don't remember reading stories of the Iraqi gov torturing it's own people since Saddam was put to death, nor do I remember reading about any recent Afghan government laws banning girls from attending school. "Make things worse" is a very subjective comment.

[Ghosty]

Oh and I don't remember reading stories of the Iraqi gov torturing it's own people since Saddam was put to deat, nor do I remember reading about any recent Afghan government laws banning girls from attending school. "Make things worse" is a very subjective comment.

Sadly, even without Saddam & the Republican Guard, Iraq is STILL A MUSLIM country. I doubt there has been that much change. I'm sure their justice system is still harsh as hell, nothing like America/Europe. Think of Saudi Arabia, our semi-ally with an actual AirForce base there. You better believe they torture the shit out of their prisoners, and still treat women like slaves in every facet of life, EVEN TODAY. Same with the Taliban killing/torturing girls trying to attend schools, and burning down those schools. The Afghan government is NO friend of ours or the West, they're just taking advantage of our goodwill and $$$$$. Pakistan is exactly the same, they are our enemies, you better believe it. It's just a "marriage of convenience" right now, while the $$$ flows out of YOURS AND MY wallet/taxes.

[Pancho Villa]

Funny... I don't see them being stronger at all. I see maybe their cause being bolstered a bit because of wars in Islamic lands- but stronger? I don't remember any successful large-scale attacks on US Soil since 2001... Oh and I don't remember reading stories of the Iraqi gov torturing it's own people since Saddam was put to death, nor do I remember reading about any recent Afghan government laws banning girls from attending school. "Make things worse" is a very subjective comment.

Islam is the national religion of Iraq and Afghanistan.

Apostasy is punishable by death in both countries. It has been prevented in a few high-profile cases only by US diplomatic intervention in both countries.

Both countries will be supporting Islamic terrorists with US supplied arms and training, not to mention better infrastructure and out-and-out support, within a few years of us leaving, on the outside. Neither country is better off in the long run than before. Iraq is arguably going to be worse off.

If you think the win/loss bar in this war is "terrorist attacks in the US" you are very much off base. Islam as a political system must be smashed, and Islam itself converted from a theocratic religion ala Catholicism in the dark ages to a peaceful one. The only way to do that is crushing military defeats and forcing Islam out of the political arena at the point of a sword. That is the measure of our success, and by that measure we've failed miserably.

[rockhound]

Islam is the national religion of Iraq and Afghanistan.

If you think the win/loss bar in this war is "terrorist attacks in the US" you are very much off base. Islam as a political system must be smashed, and Islam itself converted from a theocratic religion ala Catholicism in the dark ages to a peaceful one. The only way to do that is crushing military defeats and forcing Islam out of the political arena at the point of a sword. That is the measure of our success, and by that measure we've failed miserably.

Pancho and i agree on something for the second time in a few months. anyone see the flying pigs yet

religious aspects aside it is the politics of islam that are dangerous

[Ghosty]

If you think the win/loss bar in this war is "terrorist attacks in the US" you are very much off base. Islam as a political system must be smashed, and Islam itself converted from a theocratic religion ala Catholicism in the dark ages to a peaceful one. The only way to do that is crushing military defeats and forcing Islam out of the political arena at the point of a sword. That is the measure of our success, and by that measure we've failed miserably.

How did I miss this brilliant post the first time around? Very well stated, even if it sounds harsh to the "softies" out there. I'm Indian, my Motherland has been fighting Muslims for centuries! We're still squabbling over some dirt & rocks in Kashmere, right?

I'm not racist against Islamic countries, but I'm not a fan either. I'm for all our military actions, and applaud the French. I praise the new Spring in some of those countries, and praise the brave moderate souls that are against the Sharia bullshit and satanic Imams that are anti-Jewish. Hindus are friends with Jews LONG before they will ever be soft on Muslims. If that's racist, so be it, I aint skurred.

My latest reason for being extremely pissed is not being able to see the Great Pyramids and temples in Egypt (lifelong dream), but that's a side-story.