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    Quote Originally Posted by MuzzleFlash View Post
    Just got off the phone with an industry professional who is pretty wired into things. Here's what he's hearing:


    1. Obama has been told not to expect much action from congress on an AWB.
    2. Obama has decided to take unilateral action and issue several EO's.
      • An EO defining large capacity feeding devices as destructive devices under the NFA. Beta Mags, belts, drums, etc. Unsure if they will go for 30 round AR mags. Some talk of limiting it to capacities > 50. This would likely be ruled unlawful but we're looking at two years of litigation and possibly a change on SCOTUS before it gets there.
      • There will be a NFA amnesty restricted to registering these devices. This will require serialization and other required markings. How do you serialize a Browning 30 cal belt?
      • They want to make this mag ban a wedge issue for the 2014 mid terms.
      • There will be other EO's banning importation of standard capacity mags, belts and drums.

    3. They are hoping - even banking on - a few cold dead hands types to take up arms against them. They want the fight so they can try to split the gun rights groups and voting block into "extremists" radicals and the hunters and sporting clays types.



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    You're wrong and tight. Depending who you talk to. Me i'm in contact with my former atty now state rep on the east coast.
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    http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2...apons-ban?lite=
    Obama says he'll 'vigorously' pursue 'meaningful' assault weapons ban

    "What you can count on is that the things that I've said in the past - the belief that we have to have stronger background checks, that we can do a much better job in terms of keeping these magazine clips with high capacity out of the hands of those who shouldn't have them, an assault weapons ban that's meaningful - those are things I continue to believe make sense," Obama said during the final press conference of his first term.
    Obama said that some measures, like the lifting of restrictions on how the federal government can collect data about guns, can be accomplished by executive order, while others will require legislation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lowbeyond View Post
    oh sure. I am with you. What could possibly go wrong if POTUS can just declare whatever he wants via EO. I mean think of all the money we could save by disbanding congress! Surely this is the way forward
    I should clarify, I didn't mean by EO, I meant if that's all there was in the upcoming legislation, was a ban on >50 cap mags and belt feeds. All I've read is there is gonna be some news this week. I'm waiting like everyone else, for the real meat of what might happen, and if that means any EO...
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    apparently BO wants to increase the size of dixie

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghosty View Post
    I should clarify, I didn't mean by EO, I meant if that's all there was in the upcoming legislation, was a ban on >50 cap mags and belt feeds. All I've read is there is gonna be some news this week. I'm waiting like everyone else, for the real meat of what might happen, and if that means any EO...

    Have you posted any factual info yet? Seriously anything of substance, facts, besides the crap you really don't have anything of substance .

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    Bunch of wimps, that is nothing, I would not even be effected by this nor would 99.99999% of people and no one is going to wink an eye at that.
    This would be a major disappointment, it would do nothing for the anti gun people and it would do nothing to mobilize the Constitutional crowd.
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    Whoa whoa whoa.. slow down guys.. According to Ronin from some very reliable 3 letter agency folks.. NOTHING is going to happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuzzleFlash View Post
    Just got off the phone with an industry professional who is pretty wired into things. Here's what he's hearing:


    1. Obama has been told not to expect much action from congress on an AWB.
    2. Obama has decided to take unilateral action and issue several EO's.
      • An EO defining large capacity feeding devices as destructive devices under the NFA. Beta Mags, belts, drums, etc. Unsure if they will go for 30 round AR mags. Some talk of limiting it to capacities > 50. This would likely be ruled unlawful but we're looking at two years of litigation and possibly a change on SCOTUS before it gets there.
      • There will be a NFA amnesty restricted to registering these devices. This will require serialization and other required markings. How do you serialize a Browning 30 cal belt?
      • They want to make this mag ban a wedge issue for the 2014 mid terms.
      • There will be other EO's banning importation of standard capacity mags, belts and drums.

    3. They are hoping - even banking on - a few cold dead hands types to take up arms against them. They want the fight so they can try to split the gun rights groups and voting block into "extremists" radicals and the hunters and sporting clays types.



    I hope I am wrong.
    Except maybe the import ban, none of what is described has any statutory basis and so none of it would be a valid executive order. Its nonsense as described.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jim View Post
    Have you posted any factual info yet? Seriously anything of substance, facts, besides the crap you really don't have anything of substance .

    GHOSTY
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    You're like R13's alter ego.
    Meh, do you even know what "chicken little" means? And don't know who R13 is, nor care. Have a nice one old-timer.
    Last edited by Ghosty; 01-14-2013 at 18:25.

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