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    That's badass, dudes got some balls, even if it doesn't go anywhere. Need people like that in Colorado's legislature fighting to stop the local state nonsense that DeGette & Perlmutter are probably trying to push.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byte Stryke View Post
    I heard he was going to declare bankruptcy for the entire United States.

    I thought this already happened....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave View Post
    Not wanting to add to the rumor mill too much, but both my wife and I have federal jobs and both of our offices have rumors that federal employees may be subject to the EO's to the tune of not being able to be employed if you own AW's, high cap mags or other NFA items.

    I don't think so. Employment and civil rights acts prohibit this type of exclusion. My wife is an Investigator with a 3 letter agency and she has heard nothing on any fed action. For the "Tin-Foil" crowd; FEMA is also in her building and they haven't added tanks, personnel, weapons or a shit ton of money to that office either.
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    "Destructive Device" is defined by statute (26 USC § 5845) and magazines can not be added to this definition by EO. There may be some other avenue they think they can pursue to do this but it isn't destructive devices as already defined by the NFA, unless they think they can supporting legislation passed as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ingman View Post
    "Destructive Device" is defined by statute (26 USC § 5845) and magazines can not be added to this definition by EO. There may be some other avenue they think they can pursue to do this but it isn't destructive devices as already defined by the NFA, unless they think they can supporting legislation passed as well.
    Jesus... Finally someone who gets it. They can EO until their little Vienna sausages fall off and it will never be law. You can't redefine law after the fact with an EO either. Let him do it. First court case will crush any action and open the govt up for a huge lawsuit. This is all pissing in the wind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SA Friday View Post
    Jesus... Finally someone who gets it. They can EO until their little Vienna sausages fall off and it will never be law. You can't redefine law after the fact with an EO either. Let him do it. First court case will crush any action and open the govt up for a huge lawsuit. This is all pissing in the wind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ingman View Post
    "Destructive Device" is defined by statute (26 USC § 5845) and magazines can not be added to this definition by EO. There may be some other avenue they think they can pursue to do this but it isn't destructive devices as already defined by the NFA, unless they think they can supporting legislation passed as well.
    I agree as to the legality. However, there is no statutory basis for requiring border state FFLs to report multiple long gun sales either. He pulled that out of his ass. Wanna bet what happens to a non-reporting FFL in his compliance check if he defies the rule?

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    I would recommend that everyone send a letter of thank you and encouragement to Texas congressman Steve Stockman who has said he'll file articles of impeachment against Obozo if he tries any gun control via illegal executive order.

    And then write your own congress critters demanding they back him up on this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SA Friday View Post
    Jesus... Finally someone who gets it. They can EO until their little Vienna sausages fall off and it will never be law. You can't redefine law after the fact with an EO either. Let him do it. First court case will crush any action and open the govt up for a huge lawsuit. This is all pissing in the wind.
    And the Arrogant One cares about rule of law just how?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BPTactical View Post
    And the Arrogant One cares about rule of law just how?
    He doesn't. But writing a completely bogus EO will only expose him to ridicule, since if he tries to enforce it the courts will slap him down.
    Where he can get a bit of traction is an import ban, for those things that require import licenses approved by ATF.
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