Reddit: "Police Officers: If ordered, would you confiscate firearms from law abiding citizens?"

[Ronin13]

I am a little fuzzy on this logic... Tell me; is not the registration of NFA items unconstitutional? How many LEO enforce that BS law? Set me straight as I am confused....

Think i am gonna go saw off a few shot guns, convert some Ar's into full auto and just keep em off the books! No need to worry about any LEO enforcing that because it's unconstitutional..... Yea!

Red herring... Yes, NFA is unconstitutional, yes it's illegally enforced. But watered down masses don't understand this, so you go ahead and test that out with our current legal system and see if it gets all the way up to the SCOTUS. I see what you're trying to do here, but in a broad sense, if an all out gun ban (not something disguised as "common sense" "regulation") did happen, that's where the common person would most likely draw the line.

[10mm-man]

Red herring... Yes, NFA is unconstitutional, yes it's illegally enforced. But watered down masses don't understand this, so you go ahead and test that out with our current legal system and see if it gets all the way up to the SCOTUS. I see what you're trying to do here, but in a broad sense, if an all out gun ban (not something disguised as "common sense" "regulation") did happen, that's where the common person would most likely draw the line.

So the argument is that "Common Sense" would kick in??? Please do explain how that is gonna work..........

Edit: confused about the common person most likely drawing the line. What do you mean?

[Ronin13]

So the argument is that "Common Sense" would kick in??? Please do explain how that is gonna work..........

Edit: confused about the common person most likely drawing the line. What do you mean?

Kind of hard to explain, but your average LEO, Judge, etc wouldn't see the NFA as being unconstitutional (even though it is, and I can't think of anyone who would try to press that issue and bring up to the SCOTUS)... but sure, there are a lot of laws that infringe upon the constitution (NDAA, Patriot Act, etc), but where is the line drawn? With most "sport/hunting" gun owners (IE: the ones who are dumb enough to think that's the intent of 2A) they'll only take so much- they're fine with NFA, they're okay with '86 ban, etc... but when you talk about an all out ban, your average Joe, John Law, and Sheriff Bob will say "Okay, that's too far!" It's already floating around that a lot of Dems in Congress oppose Fecalstein's proposals, of course that's not saying that the average, ignorant gun owning public won't go along with some grandfather clause AWB or Capacity restrictions, but an all out ban and confiscation won't fly.

[Ashton]

When Ronin gets going on his cop threads I just laugh out loud.

[ChunkyMonkey]

Ronin, to test your statement, you should walk around in evergreen open carry and left your ID at home.

[HBARleatherneck]

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[10mm-man]

Ronin,

So as long as the government just implements the AWB, and just limits guns to 10 rounds, and just....

then we can expect no help from LEOs? But, if after banning everything else, they tried to implement a confiscation, then the LEOs would be on our side?

So, stomping the 2a is ok with your LEO contacts up until they actually call for confiscation?





I am not trying to make this about cops, definetly not bashing. My questions are directed to Ronin and his friends who are obviously super stand up guys.

Cops are employed to enforce the law(essentially). Why would we expect less of them?

The future LEO officer, right here folks! Pull up a chair, this is GREAT............. No wonder I feel so safe, shit who needs an AWB, I'm gonna go turn mine in...... Don't worry Ronin and his 12 CLOEs got it folks!


Yea, not bashing either ........

[T-Giv]

Completely off topic, but Jaywalking is actually enforced quite frequently. Usually people that jaywalk (especially late at night) are the ones that don't follow many other laws and have warrants. Other than that I am staying the hell out of this thread. 10mm you are an asshole, regardless of how nice your Jeep is.

[JM Ver. 2.0]

I'm just gonna sit here with my popcorn and keep my mouth shut......

[10mm-man]

10mm you are an asshole, regardless of how nice your Jeep is.

I feel like that was a compliment, I changed my mind; I will pick you up!